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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like we can eliminate the Red Sox as competition for Roy Halladay.  They are on the verge of sending Mike Lowel too Texas and picking up darn close to all 12 mil of his salary for 2010.

That should land Adrian Beltre in Boston, and if he&#039;s signing this early, and Scott Boras is his agent, you better believe the ante is closer to 10 million (still a cut) than the 5 million that was talked about for a Phillies fee based on Beltre&#039;s propensity for injury in recent times.

The Red Sox still have an outfield hole, and the likes of a Jason Bay or Matt Holliday would run 50-80 mil on top of that.  And publicly at least, that seems Theo&#039;s intention.

That&#039;s a lot of money to be shelled out even before extendng Halladay beyond this final contract year.

&lt;em&gt;If&lt;/em&gt; the Red Sox &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; out of it, the Yanks don&#039;t have to drive the price up a much to keep him off the BoSox.  That doesn&#039;t mean the Yanks wouldn&#039;t
be a serious player, but it makes it less critical.  And as much as the publc thinks the Yanks spend at will, they do have budget constraints that are only particularly flexible when the Red Sox are involved.

As for the Angels, for what it&#039;s worth, yesterday, Mike Scoscia said he&#039;s rather have John Lackey than  Jason Bay.  And its not s if Vlad Guerrero doesn&#039;t have to be relaced, let alone Chone Figgins, but if the Angels are stll hot to trot to keep Lackey, which I&#039;m guessing they can if they want, Halladay may not be quite as doable.

Not that you couldn&#039;t build just as effective a case on why Halladay isn&#039;t headed to the Phillies, but at the very least, they remain as good  trading partner as there is out there for the Toronto club.   You have to at least try to make this work.  Not even trying off the excuse of the budget being maxed just doesn&#039;t cut it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we can eliminate the Red Sox as competition for Roy Halladay.  They are on the verge of sending Mike Lowel too Texas and picking up darn close to all 12 mil of his salary for 2010.</p>
<p>That should land Adrian Beltre in Boston, and if he&#8217;s signing this early, and Scott Boras is his agent, you better believe the ante is closer to 10 million (still a cut) than the 5 million that was talked about for a Phillies fee based on Beltre&#8217;s propensity for injury in recent times.</p>
<p>The Red Sox still have an outfield hole, and the likes of a Jason Bay or Matt Holliday would run 50-80 mil on top of that.  And publicly at least, that seems Theo&#8217;s intention.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of money to be shelled out even before extendng Halladay beyond this final contract year.</p>
<p><em>If</em> the Red Sox <em>are</em> out of it, the Yanks don&#8217;t have to drive the price up a much to keep him off the BoSox.  That doesn&#8217;t mean the Yanks wouldn&#8217;t<br />
be a serious player, but it makes it less critical.  And as much as the publc thinks the Yanks spend at will, they do have budget constraints that are only particularly flexible when the Red Sox are involved.</p>
<p>As for the Angels, for what it&#8217;s worth, yesterday, Mike Scoscia said he&#8217;s rather have John Lackey than  Jason Bay.  And its not s if Vlad Guerrero doesn&#8217;t have to be relaced, let alone Chone Figgins, but if the Angels are stll hot to trot to keep Lackey, which I&#8217;m guessing they can if they want, Halladay may not be quite as doable.</p>
<p>Not that you couldn&#8217;t build just as effective a case on why Halladay isn&#8217;t headed to the Phillies, but at the very least, they remain as good  trading partner as there is out there for the Toronto club.   You have to at least try to make this work.  Not even trying off the excuse of the budget being maxed just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/2010-winter-meetings-live-updates/#comment-24780</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Brandon Lyon to the Phils possibility is dead.  Ed Wade got him.  5 mil a year x3.  Ruben wasn&#039;t going to touch that sum of money, and that&#039;s okay by me for .  I haven&#039;t heard much about Jose Valverde, and since  Soriano is not going to Houston, things should get interesing for him.

David Murphy mentioned today that Mike Gonzalez is a god fit for the Phils on paper.  Unfortunately, that&#039;s true of a lot of other clubs.  My guess is he&#039;s headed to the Yankees.

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brandon Lyon to the Phils possibility is dead.  Ed Wade got him.  5 mil a year x3.  Ruben wasn&#8217;t going to touch that sum of money, and that&#8217;s okay by me for .  I haven&#8217;t heard much about Jose Valverde, and since  Soriano is not going to Houston, things should get interesing for him.</p>
<p>David Murphy mentioned today that Mike Gonzalez is a god fit for the Phils on paper.  Unfortunately, that&#8217;s true of a lot of other clubs.  My guess is he&#8217;s headed to the Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed R...

3 years at 28 mil with an option for a 4th year seems like a bit much for Wolf no?&gt;&gt;

You would think so, wouldn&#039;t you?

Here&#039;s from the LA Times after the Wolf signing on why the Dodgers, on a short term basis were not into keeping Wolf...

&lt;&lt;The Dodgers didn’t offer Wolf arbitration out of fear that he would accept it and earn a $15-million salary reward in the process. Wolf’s deal with the Brewers is worth almost $30 million, according to sources.
Colletti said the Dodgers’ negotiations with Wolf never advanced past preliminary stages. “They told us what their interest was and what they needed in terms of finances,” Colletti said. “It wasn’t something we were comfortable doing.”
Colletti said Wolf’s agent, &lt;strong&gt;Arn Tellem&lt;/strong&gt;, called him this morning to offer him one last chance to re-sign his client. “That’s not us,” Colletti said he told Tellem. “That’s not our interest level.”..

Randy Wolf at 15 million dollars.  That&#039;s what Halladay makes currently.  That&#039;s around, lowside, what Cliff Lee figures to make long term after next year.  That&#039;s Sabathia, and Johann bread.  

Intelligent life would project the club winning in an arbitrations case where Randy Wolf asked for 15 mil.  But apparently, the club was afraid they might lose at that figure.  I guess in today&#039;s market, lefthanded starter and all,  bad economy be damned, the market has spoken and validated that Wofie&#039;s market value is the near 30 mil for 3.  At least there was viable competition here, its not like the Rangers bidding against themselves for ARod, or the Nats bidding against themselves for IRod.  All I can say is that it will be more than interesting to see how Tim Linecum&#039;s future with the Giants maps out if arbitration still scares management as much as it did in this case of a hardly pitching rich, divorce aside,  money machine like the Dodgers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed R&#8230;</p>
<p>3 years at 28 mil with an option for a 4th year seems like a bit much for Wolf no?&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>You would think so, wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s from the LA Times after the Wolf signing on why the Dodgers, on a short term basis were not into keeping Wolf&#8230;</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;The Dodgers didn’t offer Wolf arbitration out of fear that he would accept it and earn a $15-million salary reward in the process. Wolf’s deal with the Brewers is worth almost $30 million, according to sources.<br />
Colletti said the Dodgers’ negotiations with Wolf never advanced past preliminary stages. “They told us what their interest was and what they needed in terms of finances,” Colletti said. “It wasn’t something we were comfortable doing.”<br />
Colletti said Wolf’s agent, <strong>Arn Tellem</strong>, called him this morning to offer him one last chance to re-sign his client. “That’s not us,” Colletti said he told Tellem. “That’s not our interest level.”..</p>
<p>Randy Wolf at 15 million dollars.  That&#8217;s what Halladay makes currently.  That&#8217;s around, lowside, what Cliff Lee figures to make long term after next year.  That&#8217;s Sabathia, and Johann bread.  </p>
<p>Intelligent life would project the club winning in an arbitrations case where Randy Wolf asked for 15 mil.  But apparently, the club was afraid they might lose at that figure.  I guess in today&#8217;s market, lefthanded starter and all,  bad economy be damned, the market has spoken and validated that Wofie&#8217;s market value is the near 30 mil for 3.  At least there was viable competition here, its not like the Rangers bidding against themselves for ARod, or the Nats bidding against themselves for IRod.  All I can say is that it will be more than interesting to see how Tim Linecum&#8217;s future with the Giants maps out if arbitration still scares management as much as it did in this case of a hardly pitching rich, divorce aside,  money machine like the Dodgers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atlanta Journal Constitution&#039;s David O&#039;Brien on what the Braves are up to, and comments on new Phil Russ Gload...

the wheels continue to turn on the bat pursuit, albeit slowly. GM&lt;strong&gt; Frank Wren &lt;/strong&gt;and his men are working it a bit, in addition to the primary focus (trading pitching). The Braves tried to add a valuable bench piece in &lt;strong&gt;Ross Gload&lt;/strong&gt;, but the 1B/pinch-hit specialist (he led majors with 21 pinch hits in 2009 for Florida) has opted to sign with the already bench-loaded Phillies, even though he could’ve gotten more playing time at 1B with the Braves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlanta Journal Constitution&#8217;s David O&#8217;Brien on what the Braves are up to, and comments on new Phil Russ Gload&#8230;</p>
<p>the wheels continue to turn on the bat pursuit, albeit slowly. GM<strong> Frank Wren </strong>and his men are working it a bit, in addition to the primary focus (trading pitching). The Braves tried to add a valuable bench piece in <strong>Ross Gload</strong>, but the 1B/pinch-hit specialist (he led majors with 21 pinch hits in 2009 for Florida) has opted to sign with the already bench-loaded Phillies, even though he could’ve gotten more playing time at 1B with the Braves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from John Heyman tonight

hearing phillies joining the fray for halladay. angels, yanks, red sox believed in, as well.

Attaway, Ruben.  Give it a shot, and see what happens.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from John Heyman tonight</p>
<p>hearing phillies joining the fray for halladay. angels, yanks, red sox believed in, as well.</p>
<p>Attaway, Ruben.  Give it a shot, and see what happens.  <br />
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asked if major deal for pitcher (say, Halladay) is possiibility Amaro said: &quot;I guess there is. But is there a likelihood . . . Probably not&quot;

- Jayson Stark

The really compelling thing about Randy Wolf&#039;s situation is what Los Angeles does to counter his loss.  It&#039;s not like Wolf is an ace, but he&#039;s a dependable middle guy, formerly in a rotation that wasn&#039;t exactly deep, or experienced.  The name Vicente Padilla is sill floating around the free agent list.

I don&#039;t see a strong appeal to Jason Marquis, but the Phils supposedly have an interest in him.

&lt;&lt;I wish Ross Gload was a right-handed bat, but whatever.&gt;&gt;

I think that&#039;s to have a choice between Fransisco and Gload. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asked if major deal for pitcher (say, Halladay) is possiibility Amaro said: &#8220;I guess there is. But is there a likelihood . . . Probably not&#8221;</p>
<p>- Jayson Stark</p>
<p>The really compelling thing about Randy Wolf&#8217;s situation is what Los Angeles does to counter his loss.  It&#8217;s not like Wolf is an ace, but he&#8217;s a dependable middle guy, formerly in a rotation that wasn&#8217;t exactly deep, or experienced.  The name Vicente Padilla is sill floating around the free agent list.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a strong appeal to Jason Marquis, but the Phils supposedly have an interest in him.</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;I wish Ross Gload was a right-handed bat, but whatever.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s to have a choice between Fransisco and Gload. </p>
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		<title>By: Ed R.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 years at 28 mil with an option for a 4th year seems like a bit much for Wolf no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 years at 28 mil with an option for a 4th year seems like a bit much for Wolf no?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wolfie signs with Brewers for 3 years, $28 mill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good fit for both sides. I like that Brewers team. Already picked up Carlos Gomez and upgraded internally at SS with Alcides Escobar...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolfie signs with Brewers for 3 years, $28 mill.</p>
<p>Good fit for both sides. I like that Brewers team. Already picked up Carlos Gomez and upgraded internally at SS with Alcides Escobar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Ross Gload was a right-handed bat, but whatever.  Not bad for the last guy off the bench, I recall that we had some good ABs in Florida last year.  He&#039;s an offensive upgrade to a Cairo or Taguchi and a legit 1B backup to give Howard some rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Ross Gload was a right-handed bat, but whatever.  Not bad for the last guy off the bench, I recall that we had some good ABs in Florida last year.  He&#8217;s an offensive upgrade to a Cairo or Taguchi and a legit 1B backup to give Howard some rest.</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed R., I agree that the Orioles should finally be turning a corner.  Reimold, Jones, and Markakis are a solid OF and Wieters really started hitting at the end of the year.  They&#039;ve got some real nice, real young starting arms that, but last year they stayed with the youth movement and I think that we could see a Tampa Rays-type turnaround in the next few year.  The AL East will reign as the strongest division in baseball for years to come, the Jays simply have no choice other than to get some prized talent, even if it comes at the expense of an intra-division deal.  They still can control that bidding war between the Sox, Yanks, and Angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed R., I agree that the Orioles should finally be turning a corner.  Reimold, Jones, and Markakis are a solid OF and Wieters really started hitting at the end of the year.  They&#8217;ve got some real nice, real young starting arms that, but last year they stayed with the youth movement and I think that we could see a Tampa Rays-type turnaround in the next few year.  The AL East will reign as the strongest division in baseball for years to come, the Jays simply have no choice other than to get some prized talent, even if it comes at the expense of an intra-division deal.  They still can control that bidding war between the Sox, Yanks, and Angels.</p>
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