Comments on: 76ers Rumors: The #6 Pick + Zach Randolph for Reggie Evans and #16 http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/ Philly sports blog for diehard Sixers & Phillies fans Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:10:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tom http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1737 Tom Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:07:37 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1737 This deal cannot happen because the Sixers won't have the $11 million in cap space until July. Even if it could, it's not worth the risk from the Philly perspective. This deal cannot happen because the Sixers won’t have the $11 million in cap space until July. Even if it could, it’s not worth the risk from the Philly perspective.

]]> By: Dan C. http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1706 Dan C. Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:54 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1706 Randolph is not a match with this up-tempo running offense. Did you see how Randolph and Eddy Curry walked down the court all year for the Knicks? Believe me folks, this is a poor fit. Let's talk about putting the CORRECT pieces together with this RARE cap space... Randolph is not a match with this up-tempo running offense. Did you see how Randolph and Eddy Curry walked down the court all year for the Knicks? Believe me folks, this is a poor fit. Let’s talk about putting the CORRECT pieces together with this RARE cap space…

]]> By: Kevin http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1665 Kevin Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:12:14 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1665 The thought of Zach Randolph in a sixers uniform just makes my stomach hurt. Yes has talent, but it is wasted on him. Plus that contract, no way. I would love getting the 6th pick, but not if it meant getting Gordon. I am just not sold on him. Augustin or Westbrook I am all for. Brand or Antwon Jamison are a much better option then Randolph. Then draft this JJ Hickson kid and let him develop. The thought of Zach Randolph in a sixers uniform just makes my stomach hurt. Yes has talent, but it is wasted on him. Plus that contract, no way. I would love getting the 6th pick, but not if it meant getting Gordon. I am just not sold on him. Augustin or Westbrook I am all for. Brand or Antwon Jamison are a much better option then Randolph. Then draft this JJ Hickson kid and let him develop.

]]> By: AI http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1660 AI Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:37:19 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1660 Actually, Russell Westbrook is also an intriguing name at #6. He's the best defensive guard in this draft and he possesses tremendous length and athleticism. His shootings not the best, but its still better than what we have at guard right now. But still, even with our cap space we have right now, I wouldn't want this fool in Randolph and his contract on my team. Actually, Russell Westbrook is also an intriguing name at #6. He’s the best defensive guard in this draft and he possesses tremendous length and athleticism. His shootings not the best, but its still better than what we have at guard right now. But still, even with our cap space we have right now, I wouldn’t want this fool in Randolph and his contract on my team.

]]> By: AI http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1659 AI Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:30:49 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1659 I see tremendous chemistry issues if we bring in Zach Randolph. I understand people's view that if we make this trade, we get a PF and a solid guard at the top of the draft (not Eric Gordon, I watched him too much this season and he's mentally weak, repeatedly failing in the clutch--you need toughness when you reach the playoffs, just look at lamar odom and gasol. mental toughness is something you have, its hard to develop) instead of just getting elton brand. My thing with this rumor is that if they're going to have to bring in Randolph for the #6, they have to get Bayless, a quick guard who can shoot the ball while also possessing the little traits that go a long way from being a solid player to a star. Unfortunately, Bayless won't be around at #6 so I just don't see Randolph being worth moving up for #6. Lock up AI and sign Brand, then hope a Joe Alexander's around at 16. I see tremendous chemistry issues if we bring in Zach Randolph. I understand people’s view that if we make this trade, we get a PF and a solid guard at the top of the draft (not Eric Gordon, I watched him too much this season and he’s mentally weak, repeatedly failing in the clutch–you need toughness when you reach the playoffs, just look at lamar odom and gasol. mental toughness is something you have, its hard to develop) instead of just getting elton brand. My thing with this rumor is that if they’re going to have to bring in Randolph for the #6, they have to get Bayless, a quick guard who can shoot the ball while also possessing the little traits that go a long way from being a solid player to a star. Unfortunately, Bayless won’t be around at #6 so I just don’t see Randolph being worth moving up for #6.

Lock up AI and sign Brand, then hope a Joe Alexander’s around at 16.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1628 Ryan Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:12:45 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1628 I agree with joe. i wouldnt take randolph and a #1 overall for calvin booth! He has proven to be nothing on and off the court. he is a disease hes fat and out of shape lazy on defense he cant pass the ball, he is just garbage. Every team hes played for has sucked if you put him on a team where hes not the 1 option there is no way he would average 20/10. I believe reggie evans should be as untouchable as any player on the team, he is a work horse who makes barely any money and almost beat sammy for rpg... none of these guys in the draft are lebron or kobe or wade...its not worth risking the integrity of the team to move up in this draft. you get brand or j smith or you wait you dont have to risk the team just to make a change, if noone remmebers we made the playoffs this season with the team we have I agree with joe. i wouldnt take randolph and a #1 overall for calvin booth! He has proven to be nothing on and off the court. he is a disease hes fat and out of shape lazy on defense he cant pass the ball, he is just garbage. Every team hes played for has sucked if you put him on a team where hes not the 1 option there is no way he would average 20/10. I believe reggie evans should be as untouchable as any player on the team, he is a work horse who makes barely any money and almost beat sammy for rpg…

none of these guys in the draft are lebron or kobe or wade…its not worth risking the integrity of the team to move up in this draft.

you get brand or j smith or you wait you dont have to risk the team just to make a change, if noone remmebers we made the playoffs this season with the team we have

]]> By: Joe http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1554 Joe Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:27:51 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1554 Sorry for the late responses fellas... I considered posting the last couple nights, but was too drunk. @everyone Brand and losing pick(s) > Randolph and getting pick(s) imo. Brand is a terrific player. @BSKI Few things... "We know the players we have now. We know the cap space we have now. We know who’s available now. We have very little idea about any of those things in the future." I don't agree that we know what players we have now. Lou, Thad, Smith, Herb Hill, Carney are all too young to be known quantities. We can project cap space pretty easily as well. I can post our outlook on the future cap if you want... I have mapped it out a few times on other boards. "Even if it is only a two year wait, where will we be? What will our cap situation be then, Joe? How about Andre Miller, Lou Will, Iguodala, and the rest? Who will still be here and how will they be performing? Will we have a more pressing need to fill then?" Miller is gone or else we have no chance at cap space. We keep the rest of the core intact. I think the fact that a more pressing need might appear supports my argument. Whats my plan B? I think it is plan A. We use our young assets to get a player to fit our greatest need. Some team is going to want to rebuild... right? I don't think we become a contender with Zach. Plain and simple. @Dannie If Boozer and Amare aren't available, someone else will be. Someone always is. The competition remark is valid. Looking around the league, I see few teams that are going to get there though. Next offseason, I see noone really. Memphis doesn't count because noone wants to go there ever. I disagree with your Utah assessment. I think they NEED Okur. He is only a bad defender, not horrible like Boozer. Okur spreads the floor for them. They don't really have any range coming from the 2-3 spots, so they need it to come from Okur imo, unless Ronnie Brewer learns to shoot, which is a real possibility. AK-47 is unmovable I would think unless they dangle the Knicks 2010 first rounder with it. That pick could get them their missing piece though, so I doubt that happens. I think Millsap has a great chance to be a better fit in Utah as well personally, since he can defend. @Dave T. I don't like Zach's game on the court. I never have. His overall statistics aren't anything special. Add in the off the court nonsense and I just don't want him. Getting Richard Jefferson would be a horrible move imo, unless he can go back in time a couple years and also become a better shooter along the way. They can't afford him either anyway. Millsap is a great asset as well. I wouldn't part ways with him. With regards to Sheed, I think him mentoring Jason Smith would be valuable to happen. Sheed is an incredibly fundamentally sound player in every aspect of the game and is probably going to coach one day. I wouldn't get him though. @Lloyd Adding points to this team isn't an issue for me. Lou. Thad, and Iggy all well be 20 ppg scorers at some point during their career. Scorers are overrated anyway. I'll take an Iggy over a one dimensional 25 ppg scorer any day of the week. @Ricky I think if you get Zach you extend Miller, meaning no cap space, but they could use Zach's expiring contract to get someone. Sorry if any typos. I am running out the door at the moment. Sorry for the late responses fellas… I considered posting the last couple nights, but was too drunk.

@everyone

Brand and losing pick(s) > Randolph and getting pick(s) imo. Brand is a terrific player.

@BSKI

Few things…

“We know the players we have now. We know the cap space we have now. We know who’s available now. We have very little idea about any of those things in the future.”

I don’t agree that we know what players we have now. Lou, Thad, Smith, Herb Hill, Carney are all too young to be known quantities. We can project cap space pretty easily as well. I can post our outlook on the future cap if you want… I have mapped it out a few times on other boards.

“Even if it is only a two year wait, where will we be? What will our cap situation be then, Joe? How about Andre Miller, Lou Will, Iguodala, and the rest? Who will still be here and how will they be performing? Will we have a more pressing need to fill then?”

Miller is gone or else we have no chance at cap space. We keep the rest of the core intact. I think the fact that a more pressing need might appear supports my argument.

Whats my plan B? I think it is plan A. We use our young assets to get a player to fit our greatest need. Some team is going to want to rebuild… right?

I don’t think we become a contender with Zach. Plain and simple.

@Dannie

If Boozer and Amare aren’t available, someone else will be. Someone always is. The competition remark is valid. Looking around the league, I see few teams that are going to get there though. Next offseason, I see noone really. Memphis doesn’t count because noone wants to go there ever.

I disagree with your Utah assessment. I think they NEED Okur. He is only a bad defender, not horrible like Boozer. Okur spreads the floor for them. They don’t really have any range coming from the 2-3 spots, so they need it to come from Okur imo, unless Ronnie Brewer learns to shoot, which is a real possibility. AK-47 is unmovable I would think unless they dangle the Knicks 2010 first rounder with it. That pick could get them their missing piece though, so I doubt that happens. I think Millsap has a great chance to be a better fit in Utah as well personally, since he can defend.

@Dave T.

I don’t like Zach’s game on the court. I never have. His overall statistics aren’t anything special. Add in the off the court nonsense and I just don’t want him.

Getting Richard Jefferson would be a horrible move imo, unless he can go back in time a couple years and also become a better shooter along the way. They can’t afford him either anyway. Millsap is a great asset as well. I wouldn’t part ways with him.

With regards to Sheed, I think him mentoring Jason Smith would be valuable to happen. Sheed is an incredibly fundamentally sound player in every aspect of the game and is probably going to coach one day. I wouldn’t get him though.

@Lloyd

Adding points to this team isn’t an issue for me. Lou. Thad, and Iggy all well be 20 ppg scorers at some point during their career. Scorers are overrated anyway. I’ll take an Iggy over a one dimensional 25 ppg scorer any day of the week.

@Ricky

I think if you get Zach you extend Miller, meaning no cap space, but they could use Zach’s expiring contract to get someone.

Sorry if any typos. I am running out the door at the moment.

]]> By: Dave T http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1551 Dave T Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:59:58 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1551 I wouldn't get near Sheed with a 100 foot pole...I literally can't see a single positive or gain to come of him + Sixers uniform...but will wait for Dannie to write his Sheed rumor article before delving into details on why. I wouldn’t get near Sheed with a 100 foot pole…I literally can’t see a single positive or gain to come of him + Sixers uniform…but will wait for Dannie to write his Sheed rumor article before delving into details on why.

]]> By: sixerzguy http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1550 sixerzguy Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:03:30 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1550 Morty, good question, what is Wallace worth? On the other hand, I'd be careful dealing with Joe Dumars, he usually ends up on the better end of most deals. Like you told suede (can't believe I remember that), let's deal with teams in flux, and less-than-competent management. Morty, good question, what is Wallace worth? On the other hand, I’d be careful dealing with Joe Dumars, he usually ends up on the better end of most deals. Like you told suede (can’t believe I remember that), let’s deal with teams in flux, and less-than-competent management.

]]> By: Morty http://www.reclinergm.com/76ers-rumors-the-6-pick-zach-randolph-for-reggie-evans-and-16/#comment-1549 Morty Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:23:04 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=267#comment-1549 I would also rather, depending on the cost, acquire Wallace than Randolph and the #6. Rasheed is in the last year of his deal. I would also rather, depending on the cost, acquire Wallace than Randolph and the #6. Rasheed is in the last year of his deal.

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