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	<title>Comments on: Andre Iguodala and Lou Williams are Here to Stay &#8211; At Any Cost</title>
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		<title>By: Brotherly Link Love: 5-11-2008 &#8212; The Recliner GM Sports Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/andre-iguodala-and-lou-williams-are-here-to-stay-at-any-cost/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>Brotherly Link Love: 5-11-2008 &#8212; The Recliner GM Sports Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 17:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a very important one to keep in mind when talking about potential deals this off-season. Although Stefanski has also said &#8220;we have no intention of not matching any offer from another team,&amp;#82... regarding Louis Williams and Andre Iguodala other comments also suggest he isn&#8217;t opposed to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a very important one to keep in mind when talking about potential deals this off-season. Although Stefanski has also said &#8220;we have no intention of not matching any offer from another team,&amp;#82&#8230; regarding Louis Williams and Andre Iguodala other comments also suggest he isn&#8217;t opposed to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/andre-iguodala-and-lou-williams-are-here-to-stay-at-any-cost/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*over the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*over the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/andre-iguodala-and-lou-williams-are-here-to-stay-at-any-cost/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year the &quot;Big men we don&#039;t want under any circumstances&quot; award went to Josh McRoberts and Aaron Gray (although Gray, in his defense, did wind up having a decent rookie year).

This year the award goes to: Roy Hibbert, Hasheem Thabeet.  I think by now Hibbert has proved the true stiff he is capable of being...any big man that can&#039;t dominate or take over at the college level is just going to get mauled at the pro level.  Although, I will say he&#039;s transformed his game over the years and has really improved...but the guy just is not worthy of wasting a 1st round pick on in any way shape or form.  

And thank goodness Thabeet is staying at UConn.  I hate him.  One of the lowest bball IQ&#039;s and most raw, unmotivated players I have ever seen.  Quite possibly the single worst pick setter in college basketball, horrendous defense, only offense is close putbacks...can&#039;t stand him lol.  People think he&#039;s talented because of his height, and he blocks shots.  Well, he&#039;s going to be the bust of the decade unless he 180&#039;s his game over the century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year the &#8220;Big men we don&#8217;t want under any circumstances&#8221; award went to Josh McRoberts and Aaron Gray (although Gray, in his defense, did wind up having a decent rookie year).</p>
<p>This year the award goes to: Roy Hibbert, Hasheem Thabeet.  I think by now Hibbert has proved the true stiff he is capable of being&#8230;any big man that can&#8217;t dominate or take over at the college level is just going to get mauled at the pro level.  Although, I will say he&#8217;s transformed his game over the years and has really improved&#8230;but the guy just is not worthy of wasting a 1st round pick on in any way shape or form.  </p>
<p>And thank goodness Thabeet is staying at UConn.  I hate him.  One of the lowest bball IQ&#8217;s and most raw, unmotivated players I have ever seen.  Quite possibly the single worst pick setter in college basketball, horrendous defense, only offense is close putbacks&#8230;can&#8217;t stand him lol.  People think he&#8217;s talented because of his height, and he blocks shots.  Well, he&#8217;s going to be the bust of the decade unless he 180&#8242;s his game over the century.</p>
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		<title>By: Morty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;eh&quot; to Roy Hibbert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;eh&#8221; to Roy Hibbert.</p>
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		<title>By: Dannie</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/andre-iguodala-and-lou-williams-are-here-to-stay-at-any-cost/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Dannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave T and Sixerzguy - Compromise: I would say A. Miller and A. Iguodala are scoring option #1 a and b rather then categorizing them as #1 and #2.  

It changes game to game and I would lean toward Iggy because he gets the ball at the end of games.  At least to my memory very rarely did they go to Miller in end game situations.

By they way the guys on Deep Sixer are killing me with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reclinergm.com/is-roy-hibbert-overrated/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Roy Hibbert talk&lt;/a&gt; and campaign for him to be a Sixers.  I guess I am going to have to write another post about why I don&#039;t like that idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave T and Sixerzguy &#8211; Compromise: I would say A. Miller and A. Iguodala are scoring option #1 a and b rather then categorizing them as #1 and #2.  </p>
<p>It changes game to game and I would lean toward Iggy because he gets the ball at the end of games.  At least to my memory very rarely did they go to Miller in end game situations.</p>
<p>By they way the guys on Deep Sixer are killing me with the <a href="http://www.reclinergm.com/is-roy-hibbert-overrated/" rel="nofollow">Roy Hibbert talk</a> and campaign for him to be a Sixers.  I guess I am going to have to write another post about why I don&#8217;t like that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: sixerzguy</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/andre-iguodala-and-lou-williams-are-here-to-stay-at-any-cost/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>sixerzguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave T, first off, Andre Miller is our #1 scoring option, Iggy is #2, making Carney, if he started, our #3.  Second, I agree that this year&#039;s Carney wasn&#039;t that great, but with two years of experience and Mo&#039;s guidance under his belt he&#039;s going to be much better next year than he was this year.  In your own words, rookies &quot;...need time to learn, grow and come into their own.&quot;  I guess I see a higher ceiling for Carney than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave T, first off, Andre Miller is our #1 scoring option, Iggy is #2, making Carney, if he started, our #3.  Second, I agree that this year&#8217;s Carney wasn&#8217;t that great, but with two years of experience and Mo&#8217;s guidance under his belt he&#8217;s going to be much better next year than he was this year.  In your own words, rookies &#8220;&#8230;need time to learn, grow and come into their own.&#8221;  I guess I see a higher ceiling for Carney than you do.</p>
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		<title>By: sixerzguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sixerzguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pete, how about a redo of your &quot;Philadelphia Spurs&quot; post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pete, how about a redo of your &#8220;Philadelphia Spurs&#8221; post?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/andre-iguodala-and-lou-williams-are-here-to-stay-at-any-cost/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some common sense needs to be applied here with Rodney Carney.  If I was to answer the following question, giving myself no real time to think and analyze, if I asked: &quot;Is Rodney Carney ever going to be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd scoring option on any NBA team?&quot;  The easy answer is a no.  

Carney&#039;s game has not changed much since college...at Memphis he had turned himself into a super athletic, great defensive player that can score off slashing and get hot from three point land.  He came into the L as a gritty college veteran...I haven&#039;t seen him improve his game by leaps and bounds, or add an extra dimension.  He&#039;s not a good passer, and his rebounding is pretty crappy for a swingman of his size.   

Now, do I think Carney could be a starter on an NBA team?  Sure...in fact, I&#039;ll compare him to Anthony Parker on Toronto (games are very dissimilar, how they fit in a system is not).  With both Carney and A Parker...you know your team is in BIG trouble if either of these guys are being banked on to be guy #2  in the offense.  That said...if you DID have two go to guys, or a third, and you needed that last scorer to give some punch, an extra 10-12 ppg, and bring some specialties, that&#039;s when you&#039;d want a Carney or Anthony Parker getting some PT.  A. Parker&#039;s &quot;specials&quot; are his bball IQ, 3 point shooting, and passing...Carney is his defense, slashing, and streaky 3&#039;s.  

The obvious problem here is that if Carney were to start at SG...he becomes our #2 option...and that would be the single most pathetic thing in the entire NBA lol.  This guy has great potential to be an off the bench sparkplug...that can D up the hell out of people, score, and hit some threes.  Or to be that &quot;4th&quot; starter scoring option...but our team does not have the personel needed to have Carney succeed where he gets 30 mpg.  Love the guy in the 18 -25 mpg mode though...and in fact I think what we should do is to groom Lou Williams and Rodney Carney to be our bench mob...one guard and one swingman that can come in, bring some hustle and energy and light it up for a bit.   It would give us a great bench (and a cheap one) going into the future.  

Also, about his shooting...Carney is not a &quot;shooter&quot;.  By that I mean...he can hit threes, in fact can get very hot from outside...but he has no midrange game to speak of at all, and he in no way is a Korver, Kapono, Reddick type talent as far as having a shooting stroke.   He&#039;s one of these DeShawn Stevenson types that isn&#039;t a pure shooter, can&#039;t hit a J from 15 feet, but can shoot 36 - 39% from 3 point land without actually having a true, reliable shot with great form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some common sense needs to be applied here with Rodney Carney.  If I was to answer the following question, giving myself no real time to think and analyze, if I asked: &#8220;Is Rodney Carney ever going to be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd scoring option on any NBA team?&#8221;  The easy answer is a no.  </p>
<p>Carney&#8217;s game has not changed much since college&#8230;at Memphis he had turned himself into a super athletic, great defensive player that can score off slashing and get hot from three point land.  He came into the L as a gritty college veteran&#8230;I haven&#8217;t seen him improve his game by leaps and bounds, or add an extra dimension.  He&#8217;s not a good passer, and his rebounding is pretty crappy for a swingman of his size.   </p>
<p>Now, do I think Carney could be a starter on an NBA team?  Sure&#8230;in fact, I&#8217;ll compare him to Anthony Parker on Toronto (games are very dissimilar, how they fit in a system is not).  With both Carney and A Parker&#8230;you know your team is in BIG trouble if either of these guys are being banked on to be guy #2  in the offense.  That said&#8230;if you DID have two go to guys, or a third, and you needed that last scorer to give some punch, an extra 10-12 ppg, and bring some specialties, that&#8217;s when you&#8217;d want a Carney or Anthony Parker getting some PT.  A. Parker&#8217;s &#8220;specials&#8221; are his bball IQ, 3 point shooting, and passing&#8230;Carney is his defense, slashing, and streaky 3&#8242;s.  </p>
<p>The obvious problem here is that if Carney were to start at SG&#8230;he becomes our #2 option&#8230;and that would be the single most pathetic thing in the entire NBA lol.  This guy has great potential to be an off the bench sparkplug&#8230;that can D up the hell out of people, score, and hit some threes.  Or to be that &#8220;4th&#8221; starter scoring option&#8230;but our team does not have the personel needed to have Carney succeed where he gets 30 mpg.  Love the guy in the 18 -25 mpg mode though&#8230;and in fact I think what we should do is to groom Lou Williams and Rodney Carney to be our bench mob&#8230;one guard and one swingman that can come in, bring some hustle and energy and light it up for a bit.   It would give us a great bench (and a cheap one) going into the future.  </p>
<p>Also, about his shooting&#8230;Carney is not a &#8220;shooter&#8221;.  By that I mean&#8230;he can hit threes, in fact can get very hot from outside&#8230;but he has no midrange game to speak of at all, and he in no way is a Korver, Kapono, Reddick type talent as far as having a shooting stroke.   He&#8217;s one of these DeShawn Stevenson types that isn&#8217;t a pure shooter, can&#8217;t hit a J from 15 feet, but can shoot 36 &#8211; 39% from 3 point land without actually having a true, reliable shot with great form.</p>
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		<title>By: sixerzguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sixerzguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol...  Agree on &quot;RajaBowen&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230;  Agree on &#8220;RajaBowen&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I shouldn&#039;t have said &quot;Never&quot; because that is left to be seen, but in my opinion, I don&#039;t think he will develop his game offensively the way we would like him to.  He doesn&#039;t have the ball handling skills to create his own shot and is very erratic with the ball at times. I just don&#039;t see it happening, and would like to see the Sixers coaching staff work with him to become that &quot;RajaBowen&quot; (as Dannie put it) type of player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t have said &#8220;Never&#8221; because that is left to be seen, but in my opinion, I don&#8217;t think he will develop his game offensively the way we would like him to.  He doesn&#8217;t have the ball handling skills to create his own shot and is very erratic with the ball at times. I just don&#8217;t see it happening, and would like to see the Sixers coaching staff work with him to become that &#8220;RajaBowen&#8221; (as Dannie put it) type of player.</p>
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