Comments on: Another Day, Another Sixers Loss http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/ Philly sports blog for diehard Sixers & Phillies fans Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:24:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: deepsixersuede http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25969 deepsixersuede Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:10:14 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25969 Other than age, I like Brand more and hope we get a coach in here that can show that. But out of the 3 options you mentioned, Brand,Smith or not spending, I take #3 without a doubt. Dannie I just think we would be a real ugly offensive team that could be stopped easily with no low post threat, outside shooting and good decision making because our G.M. refused to get a coach that could have used this teams athletism as a weapon. In answer to your earlier statement I think the additions of Crawford, Joe Smith and Teague have as much to do with their improved record as J.Smith!s play, but he has played better this year. Other than age, I like Brand more and hope we get a coach in here that can show that. But out of the 3 options you mentioned, Brand,Smith or not spending, I take #3 without a doubt. Dannie I just think we would be a real ugly offensive team that could be stopped easily with no low post threat, outside shooting and good decision making because our G.M. refused to get a coach that could have used this teams athletism as a weapon. In answer to your earlier statement I think the additions of Crawford, Joe Smith and Teague have as much to do with their improved record as J.Smith!s play, but he has played better this year.

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25968 jjg Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:59:31 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25968 Superimposed, Iguodala is a wrench in all of mentioned champion's works, unless corraled and explicitly directed regarding role and parameters.  Due to crazy shot selection and a streak of unpredictabilty, he would improve upon none of the listed imo.   Superimposed, Iguodala is a wrench in all of mentioned champion’s works, unless corraled and explicitly directed regarding role and parameters.  Due to crazy shot selection and a streak of unpredictabilty, he would improve upon none of the listed imo.  

]]> By: Dannie http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25964 Dannie Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:53:03 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25964 <p><strong><em>Suede</em></strong> - I think you are missing the central point of the question.</p> <p>It's not whether Smith is a $15M player in of itself.  It's is he a better option as a $15M per year player if the alternative is Brand?</p> <p>Right now Brand is a jumpshooting, face-up power forward. The same compliant people have at Smith.</p> <p>Smith is better defensively at this stage IMO and comparable rebounding the ball.  In fact the only area Brand is better right now is FT%.</p> <p><a href="http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=cp5Cb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Stats</a></p> <p>Now if you say okay Smith isn't a $15M player than I think you have to admit that neither is Brand at this stage right?</p> Suede – I think you are missing the central point of the question.

It’s not whether Smith is a $15M player in of itself.  It’s is he a better option as a $15M per year player if the alternative is Brand?

Right now Brand is a jumpshooting, face-up power forward. The same compliant people have at Smith.

Smith is better defensively at this stage IMO and comparable rebounding the ball.  In fact the only area Brand is better right now is FT%.

Stats

Now if you say okay Smith isn’t a $15M player than I think you have to admit that neither is Brand at this stage right?

]]> By: deepsixersuede http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25963 deepsixersuede Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:52:23 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25963 Jumpin, I won!t rip E.S. for that, as Dannie said there have been off the court issues since high school with Smith. He seems to have turned the corner in that respect but I just don!t know how good a fit he is here. He has a legit #1 scoring option, a legit low post threat and a legit 3pt. shooting p.g., three things this team doesn!t have if you discount Brand . Jumpin, I won!t rip E.S. for that, as Dannie said there have been off the court issues since high school with Smith. He seems to have turned the corner in that respect but I just don!t know how good a fit he is here. He has a legit #1 scoring option, a legit low post threat and a legit 3pt. shooting p.g., three things this team doesn!t have if you discount Brand .

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25962 jjg Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:41:43 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25962 Brand is 31 in early March.  That's old for a plowhorse who tilled NBA fields early (age 20).  His defensive rebounding is way down compared to last season.   The gifted and energetic Smith seemed to enjoy the '08 summer courtship, appeared to want to play here.  My take is Stefanski didn't want to gamble on  Smith's perceived prickly or erratic personality.  Chose the neater, more   predictable Brand, a Dukie of fine repute.  (And then fate's irony set in.)  Lost the 'better talent-and-upside' sweepstake due to a conservative lean.      Brand is 31 in early March.  That’s old for a plowhorse who tilled NBA fields early (age 20).  His defensive rebounding is way down compared to last season.
 
The gifted and energetic Smith seemed to enjoy the ’08 summer courtship, appeared to want to play here.  My take is Stefanski didn’t want to gamble on 
Smith’s perceived prickly or erratic personality.  Chose the neater, more  
predictable Brand, a Dukie of fine repute.  (And then fate’s irony set in.)  Lost the ’better talent-and-upside’ sweepstake due to a conservative lean.     

]]> By: deepsixersuede http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25961 deepsixersuede Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:41:12 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25961 Also with more talent around him [Iggy] and better coaching along with a better defensive system he may develop into a Pippen clone. Also with more talent around him [Iggy] and better coaching along with a better defensive system he may develop into a Pippen clone.

]]> By: AaronMcKie4MVP http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25960 AaronMcKie4MVP Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:29:28 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25960 i'll tell you who on that list i would rather have as piece to a championship puzzle: pierce, allen, ginobili, josh howard, rip hamilton, rashad lewis maybe.  i think i prefer iguodala to RJeff, jason terry, odom, and turkoglu.     i dont think very highly of iguodala at his current salary, but im trying to ignore that aspect now.    the guys on the first list i think bring more to the table AND do not bring as many negatives.     what i dislike most about Iguodala is terrible shot selection.    in my mind that really hurts a team when he is on the floor.     i would certainly feel more confortable to the ball in any one of those players hands at the end of a game./    i’ll tell you who on that list i would rather have as piece to a championship puzzle:
pierce, allen, ginobili, josh howard, rip hamilton, rashad lewis maybe. 
i think i prefer iguodala to RJeff, jason terry, odom, and turkoglu.    
i dont think very highly of iguodala at his current salary, but im trying to ignore that aspect now.    the guys on the first list i think bring more to the table AND do not bring as many negatives.     what i dislike most about Iguodala is terrible shot selection.    in my mind that really hurts a team when he is on the floor.     i would certainly feel more confortable to the ball in any one of those players hands at the end of a game./ 
 

]]> By: deepsixersuede http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25959 deepsixersuede Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:28:57 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25959 Dannie, I just don!t think Smith is a 15 mill. a year player, in fact I don!t think he is better than Iggy, just my opinion. I think there are a lot of maybes to the above question. He makes a lot of those teams better defensively but other people would have to score a little more. For Pierce for example, Garnett and Allen would be the top option in end of game situations . Dannie, I just don!t think Smith is a 15 mill. a year player, in fact I don!t think he is better than Iggy, just my opinion. I think there are a lot of maybes to the above question. He makes a lot of those teams better defensively but other people would have to score a little more. For Pierce for example, Garnett and Allen would be the top option in end of game situations .

]]> By: Dannie http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25958 Dannie Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:16:52 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25958 <p>Couple questions for you Zack and all.</p> <p>We know Iguodala is a second tier player at best.  He isn't a build your team around him and his dominant strengths and weakness, franchise player.  He is a supplementary player whether that's a second or third fiddle I don't care to distinguish right now.</p> <p>Hypothetical, how does he compare to other non-elite, non-franchise players who have been in the finals recently?</p> <ul> <li>Replace Pierce with Iguodala does Boston win?</li> <li>Replace Allen with Iguodala does Boston win?</li> <li>Replace Odom with Iguodala does LA win?</li> <li>Replace Turkoglu with Iguodala does Orlando beat LA?</li> <li>Replace Lewis with Iguodala does Orlando beat LA?</li> <li>Replace Ginobili with Iguodala do the Spurs win?</li> <li>Replace Josh Howard or Jason Terry do the Mavericks not implode and win the championship?</li> <li>Replace Richard Hamilton with Iguodala does Detroit win?</li> <li>Replace Richard Jefferson with Iguodala do the Nets win a ring in those back-to-back Finals appearances?</li> </ul> Couple questions for you Zack and all.

We know Iguodala is a second tier player at best.  He isn’t a build your team around him and his dominant strengths and weakness, franchise player.  He is a supplementary player whether that’s a second or third fiddle I don’t care to distinguish right now.

Hypothetical, how does he compare to other non-elite, non-franchise players who have been in the finals recently?

  • Replace Pierce with Iguodala does Boston win?
  • Replace Allen with Iguodala does Boston win?
  • Replace Odom with Iguodala does LA win?
  • Replace Turkoglu with Iguodala does Orlando beat LA?
  • Replace Lewis with Iguodala does Orlando beat LA?
  • Replace Ginobili with Iguodala do the Spurs win?
  • Replace Josh Howard or Jason Terry do the Mavericks not implode and win the championship?
  • Replace Richard Hamilton with Iguodala does Detroit win?
  • Replace Richard Jefferson with Iguodala do the Nets win a ring in those back-to-back Finals appearances?
]]> By: RRose http://www.reclinergm.com/another-day-another-sixers-loss/#comment-25957 RRose Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:13:56 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8731#comment-25957 save this franchise.  Geez, I'm frustrated. save this franchise.  Geez, I’m frustrated.

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