Comments on: Backtracking (A Little) on Ibanez http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:41:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: T.O. http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8990 T.O. Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:08:35 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8990 If Pat Burrell doesn't sign a ridiculous deal somewhere else I am going to be highly upset with one Ruben Amaro, Jr. We couldn't have resigned Pat for a similar deal like the Ibanez 3 for 30M?? It doesn't make sense to me. Pat is loved in Phila. and in the Phils clubhouse. Read Paul Hagens article today in the DN (<a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081215_Burrell_leaves_Phillies_quietly_but_disappointed.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081215_Burrell_leaves_Phillies_quietly_but_disappointed.html</a>). It brought a tear to my eye. Ruben kinda made up for not signing Pat today by picking up Chan Ho and Moyer today. Now we have 4 pieces of our rotation set with Moyer, Myers, Hamels, and Blanton. Chan HO has been saying that the Phillies view him as a starter and that is why he signed, but FU Chan Ho. They better not annoint him as a starter and have open compeition for it. Happ and Kendrick both deserve a shot at the 5th spot and that HO would make our bullpen ridiculous. If Pat Burrell doesn’t sign a ridiculous deal somewhere else I am going to be highly upset with one Ruben Amaro, Jr. We couldn’t have resigned Pat for a similar deal like the Ibanez 3 for 30M?? It doesn’t make sense to me. Pat is loved in Phila. and in the Phils clubhouse. Read Paul Hagens article today in the DN (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081215_Burrell_leaves_Phillies_quietly_but_disappointed.html).
It brought a tear to my eye.

Ruben kinda made up for not signing Pat today by picking up Chan Ho and Moyer today. Now we have 4 pieces of our rotation set with Moyer, Myers, Hamels, and Blanton. Chan HO has been saying that the Phillies view him as a starter and that is why he signed, but FU Chan Ho. They better not annoint him as a starter and have open compeition for it. Happ and Kendrick both deserve a shot at the 5th spot and that HO would make our bullpen ridiculous.

]]> By: bski http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8975 bski Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:37:13 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8975 <strong>J Dubbz</strong>...Nice find.  Thanks for posting the link.  Very enjoyable, especially since we're the ones putting it to the Mutts.  Can't wait for the 2009 chapter in this story. J Dubbz…Nice find.  Thanks for posting the link.  Very enjoyable, especially since we’re the ones putting it to the Mutts.  Can’t wait for the 2009 chapter in this story.

]]> By: J Dubbz http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8971 J Dubbz Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:24:41 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8971 This is a pretty simple summation of the Phils/Mets rivalry: <a href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/92403-phillies-and-mets-make-trash-talking-cool-again" rel="nofollow">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/92403-phillies-and-mets-make-trash-talking-cool-again</a> It amuses me how every Mets fan that posts to any sports blog either has an excuse to why the Mets did not win the division or a what if scenario.  Not one of them can admit that the Phils were the better team as evidenced by winning the World Series.  This year should be an entertaining one when these 2 teams collide. This is a pretty simple summation of the Phils/Mets rivalry:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/92403-phillies-and-mets-make-trash-talking-cool-again

It amuses me how every Mets fan that posts to any sports blog either has an excuse to why the Mets did not win the division or a what if scenario.  Not one of them can admit that the Phils were the better team as evidenced by winning the World Series.  This year should be an entertaining one when these 2 teams collide.

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8953 jkay Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:11:32 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8953 Pete: Oliver Perez: a schizophrenic pitcher, LH with dominating stuff when his game is on (UNHITTABLE FOR LEFTIES) and Pat-Burrell-i-don't-like-that-ball-look-away walk parades when he is off. His unpredictability has cost the Phillies a lot of games in 2007-08. for some reason he was always on when pitched against us and off elsewhere. If they REALLY did re-sign him then you know they are SERIOUS bout doing some Phillie-ass-kicking. Santana doesnt bother me, he pretty much dominates everyone regardless of batting stance. Pete:
Oliver Perez: a schizophrenic pitcher, LH with dominating stuff when his game is on (UNHITTABLE FOR LEFTIES) and Pat-Burrell-i-don’t-like-that-ball-look-away walk parades when he is off. His unpredictability has cost the Phillies a lot of games in 2007-08. for some reason he was always on when pitched against us and off elsewhere. If they REALLY did re-sign him then you know they are SERIOUS bout doing some Phillie-ass-kicking.
Santana doesnt bother me, he pretty much dominates everyone regardless of batting stance.

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8950 jkay Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:55:49 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8950 will people pls. stop saying this, its getting really old and stupid. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8935764/K-Rod:-%27We%27re-going-to-be-the-team-to-beat%27 dunno why the media always wants to bait players into saying so-called 'controverisal' stuff. nobody cares anyway. hmm wonder what the choker 2009 version can really do. will people pls. stop saying this, its getting really old and stupid.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8935764/K-Rod:-%27We%27re-going-to-be-the-team-to-beat%27
dunno why the media always wants to bait players into saying so-called ‘controverisal’ stuff. nobody cares anyway. hmm wonder what the choker 2009 version can really do.

]]> By: Pete http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8941 Pete Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:24:58 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8941 eric- <div> </div> <div>santana comes to mind... and the Mets might make a point to sign Oliver Perez back because of this. But, I'm not as concerned about the starters as I am about the specialsists that could shut them down in the 6-7-8 innings. </div> <div> </div> <div>j dubbz-</div> <div> </div> <div>agree about the money, but I'm not sure they are going to do anything besides re-sign Moyer with it... If they get Lowe, it's a whole different story. But a good point about teams like the Angels being interested. </div> <div> </div> <div>again - I have no problem with adding Ibanez, it was the strategy that I found a little questionable. </div> eric-

santana comes to mind… and the Mets might make a point to sign Oliver Perez back because of this. But, I’m not as concerned about the starters as I am about the specialsists that could shut them down in the 6-7-8 innings. 
j dubbz-
agree about the money, but I’m not sure they are going to do anything besides re-sign Moyer with it… If they get Lowe, it’s a whole different story. But a good point about teams like the Angels being interested. 
again – I have no problem with adding Ibanez, it was the strategy that I found a little questionable. 
]]> By: bski http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8930 bski Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:47:49 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8930 Well, so far we can't complain about guys we have picked up that Gillick has "known" in the past.  I would venture to say that both Dobbs and Werth have exceeded our expectations.  I know they have mine.  I think the Ibanez signing is another case of this (with the added fact that Ibanez is very well known by Looper as well).  Hopefully it will turn out the same way for us. Well, so far we can’t complain about guys we have picked up that Gillick has “known” in the past.  I would venture to say that both Dobbs and Werth have exceeded our expectations.  I know they have mine.  I think the Ibanez signing is another case of this (with the added fact that Ibanez is very well known by Looper as well).  Hopefully it will turn out the same way for us.

]]> By: J Dubbz http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8927 J Dubbz Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:45:17 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8927 Gotta believe that this move is a beneficial one overall.  It frees up $$ for another signing, gets us more quality at bats and puts more balls in play on offense (and probably the same on defense).  There is something good about this guy or else the other competitive teams wouldn't have had him so high up on their radar.  It is a move for the now, and not the future, evidenced by giving up the draft pick. Gotta believe that this move is a beneficial one overall.  It frees up $$ for another signing, gets us more quality at bats and puts more balls in play on offense (and probably the same on defense).  There is something good about this guy or else the other competitive teams wouldn’t have had him so high up on their radar.  It is a move for the now, and not the future, evidenced by giving up the draft pick.

]]> By: Eric http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8924 Eric Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:40:57 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8924 There are no good lefties in the NL. Stop worrying about that. There are no good lefties in the NL. Stop worrying about that.

]]> By: TheRobTyson http://www.reclinergm.com/backtracking-a-little-on-ibanez/#comment-8902 TheRobTyson Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:50:31 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3208#comment-8902 Call me a company man, but I think that this was the right move. I still can't believe that we got Ibanez! He's a more complete player than Burrell. Higher average, less strikeouts (in a line-up filled with K's) and great team guy.... He may be older in years than Pat, but is in far better shape. Yes, he's "slightly" better in the field, and "slightly" better on the bases. It's still better. I'm a huge Burrell guy, a fan since we watched him here in Reading, and I'm sad to see him go, but Ibanez was a nice move by Amaro. Call me a company man, but I think that this was the right move. I still can’t believe that we got Ibanez! He’s a more complete player than Burrell. Higher average, less strikeouts (in a line-up filled with K’s) and great team guy…. He may be older in years than Pat, but is in far better shape. Yes, he’s “slightly” better in the field, and “slightly” better on the bases. It’s still better. I’m a huge Burrell guy, a fan since we watched him here in Reading, and I’m sad to see him go, but Ibanez was a nice move by Amaro.

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