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		<title>By: jjg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, 3rd Base and Closer are the only positions in which Yankees have DECIDED edges.  Intangibles - club comraderie, grit/fighting attitude (exemplified ridiculously by &quot;Nitro&quot; Victorino&#039;s desperate crab walk and dirty, infield leg grab during pick-off rundown vs. Dodgers), confidence of more recent post-season play and success - are in Phils&#039; favor.  Home field advantage, Yankees.  Pitching staffs, slight edge to Yanks.  (IF Phillies&#039; middle relief - Park, Durbin, Eyre - remains effective, team should be tough to beat.)  Gonna be an extended Series, 6 or 7.  Flip a coin for your winner.  [Humble reminder:  I picked Dodgers in 7.]  Since Charlie&#039;s keeping Game 2 pitcher under his hat, my guess is Martinez will follow Lee.  If Manuel trusted Hamels for that important slot at Yankee Stadium, I believe he&#039;d have named him by now.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, 3rd Base and Closer are the only positions in which Yankees have DECIDED edges.  Intangibles &#8211; club comraderie, grit/fighting attitude (exemplified ridiculously by &#8220;Nitro&#8221; Victorino&#8217;s desperate crab walk and dirty, infield leg grab during pick-off rundown vs. Dodgers), confidence of more recent post-season play and success &#8211; are in Phils&#8217; favor.  Home field advantage, Yankees.  Pitching staffs, slight edge to Yanks.  (IF Phillies&#8217; middle relief &#8211; Park, Durbin, Eyre &#8211; remains effective, team should be tough to beat.)  Gonna be an extended Series, 6 or 7.  Flip a coin for your winner.  [Humble reminder:  I picked Dodgers in 7.]  Since Charlie&#8217;s keeping Game 2 pitcher under his hat, my guess is Martinez will follow Lee.  If Manuel trusted Hamels for that important slot at Yankee Stadium, I believe he&#8217;d have named him by now.   </p>
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		<title>By: jkay</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken: agreed. But you have to admit that the Phils, for the first time, are facing a group that is better than them, even though not by much IMO. I keep breaking it down in my head the categories of strength and it seems the Yanks top them in all except maybe defense and intangibles. Either the Yanks get exposed as the overhyped, undertested and overpaid group that they are or the Phils as a team play just far better than the Bomber; those are the only situations where I can envision a Phillies win.

Well its all about who plays better anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken: agreed. But you have to admit that the Phils, for the first time, are facing a group that is better than them, even though not by much IMO. I keep breaking it down in my head the categories of strength and it seems the Yanks top them in all except maybe defense and intangibles. Either the Yanks get exposed as the overhyped, undertested and overpaid group that they are or the Phils as a team play just far better than the Bomber; those are the only situations where I can envision a Phillies win.</p>
<p>Well its all about who plays better anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was curious just how bloated Mike Francessa would sound on his open today.  His conclusion was that the Yankees had now erased the ghosts of 2004 when the Red Sox came back from 3 zip to win the ALCS.  I&#039;ll be hard pressed to hear anything funnier for a while.  Nothing is ever going to erase that, let alone 2 series wins, neither of which were surprising or dramatic.  Many think the Phils now face their true test.  Guess who else fits that bill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was curious just how bloated Mike Francessa would sound on his open today.  His conclusion was that the Yankees had now erased the ghosts of 2004 when the Red Sox came back from 3 zip to win the ALCS.  I&#8217;ll be hard pressed to hear anything funnier for a while.  Nothing is ever going to erase that, let alone 2 series wins, neither of which were surprising or dramatic.  Many think the Phils now face their true test.  Guess who else fits that bill?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Twins, the Angels and the Umps gave the Yankees A LOT of help in those first 2 series&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Twins, the Angels and the Umps gave the Yankees A LOT of help in those first 2 series</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How the hell does Kazmir miss that throw to first?  You&#039;re a pitcher for fuck&#039;s sake.  Step and throw.  Step.  and.  Throw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the hell does Kazmir miss that throw to first?  You&#8217;re a pitcher for fuck&#8217;s sake.  Step and throw.  Step.  and.  Throw.</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT&#039;S OFFICIAL....A TURNPIKE SERIES!!  

A Rumble In The Bronx indeed!  

Here is a tune to kick in gear! (From Sega&#039;s Streets of Rage 2)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcewDDeofI0&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcewDDeofI0&amp;feature=related&lt;/a&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT&#8217;S OFFICIAL&#8230;.A TURNPIKE SERIES!!  </p>
<p>A Rumble In The Bronx indeed!  </p>
<p>Here is a tune to kick in gear! (From Sega&#8217;s Streets of Rage 2)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcewDDeofI0&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcewDDeofI0&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>GO PHILLIES!!! </p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the back of my mind, I hoped it would come to this.  Here&#039;s one man&#039;s comparison on The Phils to the Big Red Machine.  Hal McCoy has been covering baseball since before Doubleday developed it.  His text follows &lt;strong&gt;(my comments in bold)&lt;/strong&gt;, followed by the link.
Want to play the lineup comparison game? OK, here is how I see it:
Catcher: Johnny Bench over Carlos Ruis in a landslide. &lt;strong&gt;(Offensively, yes, but Bench at best by a hair defensively.  Hardly a  landslide overall)&lt;/strong&gt;
First Base: Ryan Howard over Tony Perez  &lt;strong&gt;(Ryan over a lot of competition but Perez at least makes it interesting with clutch consistency)&lt;/strong&gt;
Second Base: Chase Utley/Joe Morgan. That one is probably a wash. 
&lt;strong&gt;(Fair conclusion).

&lt;/strong&gt;Shortstop: Jimmy Rollins on offense and Davey Concepcion on defense.  &lt;strong&gt;(Sorry Hal, no way.  Very close to even on defense, edge to Rollins.  Conversely, I&#039;d give an edge to Concepcion offensively based on consistency.  I would think Bowa would agree with me, bu who knows).&lt;/strong&gt;
Third base: Pete Rose over Pedro Feliz, not even close. &lt;strong&gt;(Again, as in catcher, Pedro is overall better defensively and that narrows the gap.  But if you consider Pete&#039;s intangibles, this widens it again, but defense is not to be overlooked.&lt;/strong&gt;
Left Field: George Foster over Raul Ibanez, by a wide margin.  &lt;strong&gt;(no disagreement).  &lt;/strong&gt;
Center Field: Shane Victorino on offense and Cesar Geronimo on defense.  &lt;strong&gt;(Any defensive difference is small.  Cesar was very good, mind you, great range, especially. Cesar was more skill, Shane is more heart.  I&#039;ll take heart 9 days a week when the talent is close).&lt;/strong&gt;
Right Field: Ken Griffey Sr. over Jayson Werth because Griffey was a better all-around player.  &lt;strong&gt;(absurd.  Griffey was one of these athletic looking specimens who&#039;s potential wasn&#039;t fulfilled until his family did it.  Nice player, but doesn&#039;t match Werth defensively in particular).
&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/10/23/the_phillies_are_not_the_big_r.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/10/23/the_phillies_are_not_the_big_r.html&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the back of my mind, I hoped it would come to this.  Here&#8217;s one man&#8217;s comparison on The Phils to the Big Red Machine.  Hal McCoy has been covering baseball since before Doubleday developed it.  His text follows <strong>(my comments in bold)</strong>, followed by the link.<br />
Want to play the lineup comparison game? OK, here is how I see it:<br />
Catcher: Johnny Bench over Carlos Ruis in a landslide. <strong>(Offensively, yes, but Bench at best by a hair defensively.  Hardly a  landslide overall)</strong><br />
First Base: Ryan Howard over Tony Perez  <strong>(Ryan over a lot of competition but Perez at least makes it interesting with clutch consistency)</strong><br />
Second Base: Chase Utley/Joe Morgan. That one is probably a wash.<br />
<strong>(Fair conclusion).</p>
<p></strong>Shortstop: Jimmy Rollins on offense and Davey Concepcion on defense.  <strong>(Sorry Hal, no way.  Very close to even on defense, edge to Rollins.  Conversely, I&#8217;d give an edge to Concepcion offensively based on consistency.  I would think Bowa would agree with me, bu who knows).</strong><br />
Third base: Pete Rose over Pedro Feliz, not even close. <strong>(Again, as in catcher, Pedro is overall better defensively and that narrows the gap.  But if you consider Pete&#8217;s intangibles, this widens it again, but defense is not to be overlooked.</strong><br />
Left Field: George Foster over Raul Ibanez, by a wide margin.  <strong>(no disagreement).  </strong><br />
Center Field: Shane Victorino on offense and Cesar Geronimo on defense.  <strong>(Any defensive difference is small.  Cesar was very good, mind you, great range, especially. Cesar was more skill, Shane is more heart.  I&#8217;ll take heart 9 days a week when the talent is close).</strong><br />
Right Field: Ken Griffey Sr. over Jayson Werth because Griffey was a better all-around player.  <strong>(absurd.  Griffey was one of these athletic looking specimens who&#8217;s potential wasn&#8217;t fulfilled until his family did it.  Nice player, but doesn&#8217;t match Werth defensively in particular).<br />
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<a href="http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/10/23/the_phillies_are_not_the_big_r.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/10/23/the_phillies_are_not_the_big_r.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Real Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History v.s Yanks might give Pedro nod for Game 2!  Sounds good, especially once it becomes official and if the Yankees do advance.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4591258&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4591258&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History v.s Yanks might give Pedro nod for Game 2!  Sounds good, especially once it becomes official and if the Yankees do advance.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4591258" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4591258</a></p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice story on Raul Ibanez by Lee Jenkins of SI, &lt;a title=&quot;He&#039;s Gotta Play Hurt.&quot; href=&quot;http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1161601/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;He&#039;s Gotta Play Hurt&lt;/a&gt;.

Here is an excerpt that contains an interesting  nugget of info, about which I was unaware:

......&lt;em&gt;But by the third week in June, Ibañez was suffering from a sore left groin&lt;strong&gt; and, unbeknownst to the public, a small but serious muscle tear near his abdomen. &lt;/strong&gt;On a trip to Toronto he was confronted with an excruciating decision: He could have surgery to repair the tear and miss a large chunk of time, or he could return after a short stint on the disabled list and play his dream season hurt. &quot;We all asked him if he would have the surgery,&quot; Phillies first base coach Davey Lopes says, &quot;and he told everyone, &#039;I won&#039;t do that. I&#039;ll do anything but that.&#039;&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;After consulting with a neuromuscular specialist in Toronto and a surgeon in Philadelphia, Ibañez chose the DL, followed by aggressive rehabilitation. Every day he drops onto a mat in the Phillies&#039; clubhouse, performs core and hip exercises with trainer Scott Sheridan and then heads for the field.......&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice story on Raul Ibanez by Lee Jenkins of SI, <a title="He's Gotta Play Hurt." href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1161601/index.htm" rel="nofollow">He&#8217;s Gotta Play Hurt</a>.</p>
<p>Here is an excerpt that contains an interesting  nugget of info, about which I was unaware:</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;<em>But by the third week in June, Ibañez was suffering from a sore left groin<strong> and, unbeknownst to the public, a small but serious muscle tear near his abdomen. </strong>On a trip to Toronto he was confronted with an excruciating decision: He could have surgery to repair the tear and miss a large chunk of time, or he could return after a short stint on the disabled list and play his dream season hurt. &#8220;We all asked him if he would have the surgery,&#8221; Phillies first base coach Davey Lopes says, &#8220;and he told everyone, &#8216;I won&#8217;t do that. I&#8217;ll do anything but that.&#8217;&#8221;</em><br />
<em>After consulting with a neuromuscular specialist in Toronto and a surgeon in Philadelphia, Ibañez chose the DL, followed by aggressive rehabilitation. Every day he drops onto a mat in the Phillies&#8217; clubhouse, performs core and hip exercises with trainer Scott Sheridan and then heads for the field&#8230;&#8230;.</em></p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Jayson Stark&#039;s chat today:




Mark (Conshohocken, PA)


&lt;em&gt;Jason - Will Cole Hamels need to get his mojo back in order to beat the yanks with a 1-2 punch of himself and Lee?&lt;/em&gt;
Jayson Stark
  (1:07 PM)



&lt;em&gt;I think the Phillies&#039; best shot to beat the Yankees is for Hamels, Cliff Lee and J.A. Happ to start five times out of seven games if it goes that long. So they need that guy to figure it out. But the way he pitched the other night, and the way he talked afterward, tells you something: He doesn&#039;t have anywhere near the faith in himself he had last year this time.

&lt;/em&gt;I feel the same way about Hamels, as I&#039;ve said recently.  Gotta figure he&#039;s going to get 2 starts though, as I doubt Charlie will pitch Lee on short rest unless we are really up against it.  Tough to see us winning with 2 subpar starts from Hamels, so now would be a fantastic time for him to find some magic, to sell his soul to the devil, or whatever else might be required.

Interesting that Stark mentions giving Happ a start.  Not saying that Charlie isn&#039;t thinking about giving him one, but I think we&#039;re still in the same situation, which is that Happ is needed more in the bullpen and will almost assuredly be used regularly in relief.  If that proves to be the case, then I doubt that he will be able to make a start.

To me, that means we are looking at 2 starts from Lee, 2 starts from Hamels, 1 from Pedro, 1 from Blanton, and plan on winning the series in 6 games.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Jayson Stark&#8217;s chat today:</p>
<p>Mark (Conshohocken, PA)</p>
<p><em>Jason &#8211; Will Cole Hamels need to get his mojo back in order to beat the yanks with a 1-2 punch of himself and Lee?</em><br />
Jayson Stark<br />
  (1:07 PM)</p>
<p><em>I think the Phillies&#8217; best shot to beat the Yankees is for Hamels, Cliff Lee and J.A. Happ to start five times out of seven games if it goes that long. So they need that guy to figure it out. But the way he pitched the other night, and the way he talked afterward, tells you something: He doesn&#8217;t have anywhere near the faith in himself he had last year this time.</p>
<p></em>I feel the same way about Hamels, as I&#8217;ve said recently.  Gotta figure he&#8217;s going to get 2 starts though, as I doubt Charlie will pitch Lee on short rest unless we are really up against it.  Tough to see us winning with 2 subpar starts from Hamels, so now would be a fantastic time for him to find some magic, to sell his soul to the devil, or whatever else might be required.</p>
<p>Interesting that Stark mentions giving Happ a start.  Not saying that Charlie isn&#8217;t thinking about giving him one, but I think we&#8217;re still in the same situation, which is that Happ is needed more in the bullpen and will almost assuredly be used regularly in relief.  If that proves to be the case, then I doubt that he will be able to make a start.</p>
<p>To me, that means we are looking at 2 starts from Lee, 2 starts from Hamels, 1 from Pedro, 1 from Blanton, and plan on winning the series in 6 games.</p>
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