Comments on: Eagles Blow…Opportunity: Lose to Redskins http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:41:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Eagles Rise From Ashes, Head to Minnesota http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9656 Eagles Rise From Ashes, Head to Minnesota Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:57:19 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9656 [...] I talked about the Eagles path to the playoffs three weekends ago, and when I had them buried last weekend after the Redskins debacle, I never expected that the season would turn out like [...] [...] I talked about the Eagles path to the playoffs three weekends ago, and when I had them buried last weekend after the Redskins debacle, I never expected that the season would turn out like [...]

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9400 jjg Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:40:29 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9400 <strong>bski  </strong>Thanks.  Reference to "systems" was my thin acknowledgement of the Andy Reid 'dink and dunk' diagramming; even as that's been a factor, true individual greatness surmounts any operating system and supplies near-primacy in key offensive categories, in my opinion.     bski  Thanks.  Reference to “systems” was my thin acknowledgement of the Andy Reid ‘dink and dunk’ diagramming; even as that’s been a factor, true individual greatness surmounts any operating system and supplies near-primacy in key offensive categories, in my opinion.    

]]> By: bski http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9399 bski Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:18:44 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9399 Nicely done, <strong>jjg.</strong> However, one thing to keep in mind is that Reid's version of the west-coast offense is predicated on the short throw and heavily dependent on YAC.  That said, there has been a lot of YUCK over the years. Nicely done, jjg. However, one thing to keep in mind is that Reid’s version of the west-coast offense is predicated on the short throw and heavily dependent on YAC.  That said, there has been a lot of YUCK over the years.

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9397 jjg Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:41:09 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9397 CORRECTION re post #19:  1st number is "avg gain per <strong>pass attempt</strong> - career", not " ... per catch (completion)" as originally written. CORRECTION re post #19:  1st number is “avg gain per pass attempt – career”, not ” … per catch (completion)” as originally written.

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9396 jjg Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:21:19 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9396 McNabb had 1 great year:  2004 - <strong>104.7</strong> QB efficiency rating.  Other 9 years combined rating - <strong>82.6.</strong>  I won't mention the X factor.<strong>  </strong> The<strong> </strong>primary job of QB is to move ball downfield and throw TDs.  1st number indicates avg gain per catch - career, 2nd is pass attempts per TD - career:                                                                               avg gain    att per TD       Romo                         8.2             15.6       P. Manning              7.6             17.9        Brady                         7.2             18.5       Rivers                        7.5             18.5       Roethlisberger       7.9            18.7       Warner                      8.0             19.8       Favre                         7.0             19.9       Palmer                       7.2             20.2       Delhomme               7.3             21.1       Brees                          7.2             22.0       <strong>McNabb                  6.8            22.3 </strong> McNabb has thrown 550 times this season in 14 1/2 games - 37.9 att per game!  His avg gain per catch is 6.8, matching his mediocre career number. Systems in which QBs operate are various, as are production results. Thought you might find stats interesting.  I say they support the notion that McNabb has long been overhyped.                                          McNabb had 1 great year:  2004 - 104.7 QB efficiency rating.  Other 9 years combined rating – 82.6.  I won’t mention the X factor. 

The primary job of QB is to move ball downfield and throw TDs.  1st number indicates avg gain per catch – career, 2nd is pass attempts per TD – career:
                                      
                                       avg gain    att per TD

      Romo                         8.2             15.6
      P. Manning              7.6             17.9 
      Brady                         7.2             18.5
      Rivers                        7.5             18.5
      Roethlisberger       7.9            18.7
      Warner                      8.0             19.8
      Favre                         7.0             19.9
      Palmer                       7.2             20.2
      Delhomme               7.3             21.1
      Brees                          7.2             22.0
      McNabb                  6.8            22.3

McNabb has thrown 550 times this season in 14 1/2 games - 37.9 att per game!  His avg gain per catch is 6.8, matching his mediocre career number.

Systems in which QBs operate are various, as are production results.
Thought you might find stats interesting.  I say they support the notion that McNabb has long been overhyped. 

 

      
      
       
 

             

]]> By: Kevo84 http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9383 Kevo84 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:12:22 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9383 McNabb is just flaky. He goes around playing good one moment and bad the next? Its like I read in one post "We can beat teams like Cowboys, and Giants, But I don't understand how we lose to the Redskins and Tie with the Bangles. WTH!!!!! McNabb has potential, the entire team has potential . But I feel like its all backed by How McNabb is feeling - Someone needs to give McNabb a backrub and some chunky soup before each game just so that guy can feel better or something! McNabb is just flaky. He goes around playing good one moment and bad the next? Its like I read in one post “We can beat teams like Cowboys, and Giants, But I don’t understand how we lose to the Redskins and Tie with the Bangles. WTH!!!!! McNabb has potential, the entire team has potential . But I feel like its all backed by How McNabb is feeling – Someone needs to give McNabb a backrub and some chunky soup before each game just so that guy can feel better or something!

]]> By: gcl138 http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9371 gcl138 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:26:50 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9371 To Adam, I agree with trying to pick up Wells.  His stock fell this year after he sat out of the Ohio-USC game when Ohio got sacked.  With all these college players, when their teams aren't playing as well their stock drops even though the talent is still there.  He is a big back which we badly need in our own division.  But at the very least we need another back.  The good teams in this league rely on two backs.  Westbrook is not getting any younger and needs a second back to take some reps.  I also agree that the first two picks need to be offense.  I would take the best O-line or RB or TE depending on who is available with the pick and which provides the best value with that pick. McNabb has to go.  I dont care about his statistics, I go by what I see, and it is he can hit the broad side of a barn.  We need to move on.  He is not a winner and never will be.  Everyone talks how we go to those NFC championship games but then forgets to add that we lost 3 out 4 and then lost the superbowl.  Kolb may not be the answer but neither is McNabb.  If we could get  first rounder for him its time to send him packing.  Hes good but would never be great.  To Adam,
I agree with trying to pick up Wells.  His stock fell this year after he sat out of the Ohio-USC game when Ohio got sacked.  With all these college players, when their teams aren’t playing as well their stock drops even though the talent is still there.  He is a big back which we badly need in our own division.  But at the very least we need another back.  The good teams in this league rely on two backs.  Westbrook is not getting any younger and needs a second back to take some reps. 
I also agree that the first two picks need to be offense.  I would take the best O-line or RB or TE depending on who is available with the pick and which provides the best value with that pick.
McNabb has to go.  I dont care about his statistics, I go by what I see, and it is he can hit the broad side of a barn.  We need to move on.  He is not a winner and never will be.  Everyone talks how we go to those NFC championship games but then forgets to add that we lost 3 out 4 and then lost the superbowl.  Kolb may not be the answer but neither is McNabb.  If we could get  first rounder for him its time to send him packing.  Hes good but would never be great. 

]]> By: Adam http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9357 Adam Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:43:46 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9357 Let's see what Ringer did against the good defenses he played.  While the Big 10 is tough, not all of them have good defenses.  Here is a quick analysis.  I don't have time to get you the defensive rankings of the teams listed, but from watching every Big 10 team play, this is what you get.  And keep in mind Ringer is only 5'9" and 200 pounds, smaller than B-West.  Wells, on the other hand, is 6'2" 230 with breakaway speed and tackle-breaking ability (unfortunately, he may have injury issues as well). California:  27 rushes for 81 yards, 3.0 ypc Iowa:  25 rushes for 91 yards, 3.6 ypc Wisconsin:  21 rushes for 54 yards, 2.6 ypc Ohio State:  16 rushes for 67 yards, 4.2 ypc Penn State:  17 rushes for 42 yards, 2.5 ypc Oh and just for Pete, against Notre Dame he had 39 rushes for 201 yards for 5.2 ypc.  198 yards against Indiana and 282 against Florida Atlantic prop the stats.  I don't consider any other teams he played to have good defenses.  Maybe you include Michigan where he actually had a good game.  But suffice to say, in the amount I saw Ringer, I did not see somoene with great NFL potential.  The Eagles need a bigger back than Ringer. Let’s see what Ringer did against the good defenses he played.  While the Big 10 is tough, not all of them have good defenses.  Here is a quick analysis.  I don’t have time to get you the defensive rankings of the teams listed, but from watching every Big 10 team play, this is what you get.  And keep in mind Ringer is only 5’9″ and 200 pounds, smaller than B-West.  Wells, on the other hand, is 6’2″ 230 with breakaway speed and tackle-breaking ability (unfortunately, he may have injury issues as well).

California:  27 rushes for 81 yards, 3.0 ypc
Iowa:  25 rushes for 91 yards, 3.6 ypc
Wisconsin:  21 rushes for 54 yards, 2.6 ypc
Ohio State:  16 rushes for 67 yards, 4.2 ypc
Penn State:  17 rushes for 42 yards, 2.5 ypc

Oh and just for Pete, against Notre Dame he had 39 rushes for 201 yards for 5.2 ypc.  198 yards against Indiana and 282 against Florida Atlantic prop the stats.  I don’t consider any other teams he played to have good defenses.  Maybe you include Michigan where he actually had a good game.  But suffice to say, in the amount I saw Ringer, I did not see somoene with great NFL potential.  The Eagles need a bigger back than Ringer.

]]> By: J Dubbz http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9355 J Dubbz Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:27:47 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9355 <strong>Adam</strong>...I think you gotta give Ringer some credit.  1590 yards/21 tds from 370 carries (31 carries per game) isn't too bad against mostly Big 10 defenses.  He is a work horse of a running back which is exactly what the Eagles need.  Beanie Wells would also fit that mold if he decides to enter the draft. Adam…I think you gotta give Ringer some credit.  1590 yards/21 tds from 370 carries (31 carries per game) isn’t too bad against mostly Big 10 defenses.  He is a work horse of a running back which is exactly what the Eagles need.  Beanie Wells would also fit that mold if he decides to enter the draft.

]]> By: joe http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-blowopportunity-lose-to-redskins/#comment-9351 joe Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:07:25 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=3333#comment-9351 Clock Management was never a Reid/McNabb strong point.  When the announcers were saying, they have 2 shots for the endzone or work the sidelines, I knew they would run 1 play and the clock would expire.  Don't know how many times I've seen them have poor clock management at the end of halfs & games (and no hurry up in the Super Bowl).  The QB must be aware of the clock and either go endzone, sidelines, or throw it away.  Poor clock management Clock Management was never a Reid/McNabb strong point.  When the announcers were saying, they have 2 shots for the endzone or work the sidelines, I knew they would run 1 play and the clock would expire.  Don’t know how many times I’ve seen them have poor clock management at the end of halfs & games (and no hurry up in the Super Bowl).  The QB must be aware of the clock and either go endzone, sidelines, or throw it away.  Poor clock management

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