Comments on: Eagles Try To Lose, But Edge Broncos http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:41:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Drew http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26022 Drew Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:10:22 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26022 Just because Pete's list made me think about my playoff teams ranking with their biggest weakness next to the team: 1. Indy (no run game) 2. San Diego (no run game, trouble stopping the run against fast backs) 3. Philly (D and O are inconsistent at times, probably result of young team) 4. Dallas (Romo sucks in the playoffs and they rely on Austin too much) 5.  Green Bay (D is inconsistent, O line issues but have been better) 6.  Pats (Pass Def sucks, can't get pressure on QB) 7. Arizona (Stopping the pass, O line giving Warner time) 8. Vikes (D all the sudden stinks. EJ Henderson and Williams were huge losses, can't run the ball either which is very weird) 9. Cincinnati (Passing offense is bad) 10. New Orleans (Defense can't stop Josh freakin Freeman, they are who they were the past 2 years now that they've lost their corners, nothing special just a good pass offense, haven't been able to run the ball the past few weeks either) Just because Pete’s list made me think about my playoff teams ranking with their biggest weakness next to the team:
1. Indy (no run game)
2. San Diego (no run game, trouble stopping the run against fast backs)
3. Philly (D and O are inconsistent at times, probably result of young team)
4. Dallas (Romo sucks in the playoffs and they rely on Austin too much)
5.  Green Bay (D is inconsistent, O line issues but have been better)
6.  Pats (Pass Def sucks, can’t get pressure on QB)
7. Arizona (Stopping the pass, O line giving Warner time)
8. Vikes (D all the sudden stinks. EJ Henderson and Williams were huge losses, can’t run the ball either which is very weird)
9. Cincinnati (Passing offense is bad)
10. New Orleans (Defense can’t stop Josh freakin Freeman, they are who they were the past 2 years now that they’ve lost their corners, nothing special just a good pass offense, haven’t been able to run the ball the past few weeks either)

]]> By: Chris McC http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26017 Chris McC Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:03 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26017 And, thirdly.  I think the reason the Chargers aren't getting the hype is because; (1) the Colts had the perfect season going and (2) because they are always someone's favorite to win the AFC and almost always fall short.  How many times in the last 5 years have the guys at ESPN picked the Chargers to go to the Super Bowl?  So I think people see this winning streak but think, just like the last 3 or 4 years, they will come up short.   Any team that go into Payton's house and take his lunch money has to be described as "scary." And, thirdly.  I think the reason the Chargers aren’t getting the hype is because; (1) the Colts had the perfect season going and (2) because they are always someone’s favorite to win the AFC and almost always fall short.  How many times in the last 5 years have the guys at ESPN picked the Chargers to go to the Super Bowl?  So I think people see this winning streak but think, just like the last 3 or 4 years, they will come up short.
 
Any team that go into Payton’s house and take his lunch money has to be described as “scary.”

]]> By: Chris McC http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26016 Chris McC Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:47:28 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26016 Pete, I'm not sure I wouldn't rank Arizona under a Denver or Baltimore.   I would take Warner over Orton or Flacco any day of the week and twice on Sunday but I really like the Ravens.  Then again, I've always liked Harbaugh. Pete,
I’m not sure I wouldn’t rank Arizona under a Denver or Baltimore.
 
I would take Warner over Orton or Flacco any day of the week and twice on Sunday but I really like the Ravens.  Then again, I’ve always liked Harbaugh.

]]> By: Chris McC http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26015 Chris McC Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:43:44 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26015 KB,   Let us not forget the team's ability to win down the stretch.  Did anyone see this team getting within 8 minutes of the super bowl after going 9-6-1?  They did it by winning 5 of their last 6 in 2008 and rolled into Arizona.  This team knows when to turn it on.   Agreed, the defense is a more of a concern than it normally is and they always have and always will display some inconsistencies with execution but they know how to win and can score points in the blink of an eye.   To me the big question is Westbrook.  How much he DOES contribute and how much Reid and Mornigweig (sic) THINK he can contribute.  If McCoy and Weaver are more effective they have to be able to reduce B-West's role and let the kid carry the load.  Reid is intensely loyal and I'm not positive he'll be ready to make that move. KB,
 
Let us not forget the team’s ability to win down the stretch.  Did anyone see this team getting within 8 minutes of the super bowl after going 9-6-1?  They did it by winning 5 of their last 6 in 2008 and rolled into Arizona.  This team knows when to turn it on.
 
Agreed, the defense is a more of a concern than it normally is and they always have and always will display some inconsistencies with execution but they know how to win and can score points in the blink of an eye.
 
To me the big question is Westbrook.  How much he DOES contribute and how much Reid and Mornigweig (sic) THINK he can contribute.  If McCoy and Weaver are more effective they have to be able to reduce B-West’s role and let the kid carry the load.  Reid is intensely loyal and I’m not positive he’ll be ready to make that move.

]]> By: Pete http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26006 Pete Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:33:28 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26006 <p>I would rank the playoffs teams as follows....</p> <p><ol> <li>San Diego</li> <li>Indianapolis</li> <li>New Orleans</li> <li>New England</li> <li>Philadelphia</li> <li>Dallas</li> <li>Cincinnati</li> <li>Minnesota</li> <li>Green Bay</li> <li>Arizona</li> <li>AFC wild card</li> <li>AFC wild card</li> </ol> <div></div> </p> I would rank the playoffs teams as follows….

  1. San Diego
  2. Indianapolis
  3. New Orleans
  4. New England
  5. Philadelphia
  6. Dallas
  7. Cincinnati
  8. Minnesota
  9. Green Bay
  10. Arizona
  11. AFC wild card
  12. AFC wild card

]]> By: Ken Bland http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26005 Ken Bland Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:28:34 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26005 I know the Colts and Saints are the favorites but, now that the mystique of 16-0 is lifted, are there any teams in the league more terrifying than Philly and San Diego right now?>> Well, first of all, I'm surprised San Diego isn't getting more hype.  But to answer your question/opinion, I don't think the Eagles are close to San Diego as a legit SB threat.  The Eagles offense is awesome, but lets not forget the NFC is very balanced, and 1 and done may still be the end story.  The defense doesn't jump out at you and offer scare, and appears very capable of potentially doing what it did after the offense scored the go ahead touchdown in last year's NFC title game. Meltdown City.  The Chargers are so balanced, Rivers is terrific, and if John Runyan gets a ring, you won't hear a complaint out of me. More scary than the Eagles to me, well, lets say just as scary,  is New England.  They have had their inconsitencies as well, but they have reestablished their running game, and obviously have a core personnel that knows how to win.  It seems about 40 years in a row now that people thought this was the year the Chargers would finally get through the Patriots, but I think this might be the year it happens. Lastly, much as I hate doing this, I wouldn't put Dallas too far behind the Eagles as a team that might qualify as scary.  The Dallas defense is excellent, and you know the old adage about defense winning championships.  I totally understand, and root with vigor, for Dallas's to do its usual beat itself on offense, but that defense is still really, really good.   So I would say that its okay to include the Eagles in a list of most scary, but they re not as scary as San Diego, probably on a par with New England, and not much more so than Dallas. I know the Colts and Saints are the favorites but, now that the mystique of 16-0 is lifted, are there any teams in the league more terrifying than Philly and San Diego right now?>>

Well, first of all, I’m surprised San Diego isn’t getting more hype.  But to answer your question/opinion, I don’t think the Eagles are close to San Diego as a legit SB threat.  The Eagles offense is awesome, but lets not forget the NFC is very balanced, and 1 and done may still be the end story.  The defense doesn’t jump out at you and offer scare, and appears very capable of potentially doing what it did after the offense scored the go ahead touchdown in last year’s NFC title game.
Meltdown City.  The Chargers are so balanced, Rivers is terrific, and if John Runyan gets a ring, you won’t hear a complaint out of me.

More scary than the Eagles to me, well, lets say just as scary,  is New England.  They have had their inconsitencies as well, but they have reestablished their running game, and obviously have a core personnel that knows how to win.  It seems about 40 years in a row now that people thought this was the year the Chargers would finally get through the Patriots, but I think this might be the year it happens.

Lastly, much as I hate doing this, I wouldn’t put Dallas too far behind the Eagles as a team that might qualify as scary.  The Dallas defense is excellent, and you know the old adage about defense winning championships.  I totally understand, and root with vigor, for Dallas’s to do its usual beat itself on offense, but that defense is still really, really good.  

So I would say that its okay to include the Eagles in a list of most scary, but they re not as scary as San Diego, probably on a par with New England, and not much more so than Dallas.

]]> By: Chris McC http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-26001 Chris McC Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:47:13 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-26001 I was actually surprised (I'm not checking the standings and tiebreakers everyday) to read that the Eagles clinch the #2 seed with a win.  I wasn't aware they controlled the race.  I am about as excited for this Cowboys game as I have been for any Eagles game in a while.   Good to see them pull this one out.  I'm a big believer in the thought that the sign of a good team is that even when they play poorly they find a way to win.  The Birds have now taken 6 straight?  Pretty damn impressive to see them at 11-4 after sputtering to a 5-4 start.   I know the Colts and Saints are the favorites but, now that the mystique of 16-0 is lifted, are there any teams in the league more terrifying than Philly and San Diego right now? I was actually surprised (I’m not checking the standings and tiebreakers everyday) to read that the Eagles clinch the #2 seed with a win.  I wasn’t aware they controlled the race.  I am about as excited for this Cowboys game as I have been for any Eagles game in a while.
 
Good to see them pull this one out.  I’m a big believer in the thought that the sign of a good team is that even when they play poorly they find a way to win.  The Birds have now taken 6 straight?  Pretty damn impressive to see them at 11-4 after sputtering to a 5-4 start.
 
I know the Colts and Saints are the favorites but, now that the mystique of 16-0 is lifted, are there any teams in the league more terrifying than Philly and San Diego right now?

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-25996 jkay Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:56:58 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-25996 #2  seed is officially up for the taking. thank you Chicago. #2  seed is officially up for the taking.
thank you Chicago.

]]> By: jurnee16 http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-25989 jurnee16 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:48:31 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-25989 One thing that bothered me yesterday was how few looks Celek got in the second half after his dominating performance in the first half.... One thing that bothered me yesterday was how few looks Celek got in the second half after his dominating performance in the first half….

]]> By: Ken Bland http://www.reclinergm.com/eagles-try-to-lose-but-edge-broncos/#comment-25973 Ken Bland Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:29:24 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=8736#comment-25973 Sometime soon, the NFL will announce its 2010 schedule.  Fans and media types will flood sports radio and message boards with projected records, capitulating with Gary Myers of the NY Daily News writing a column hours after this year's Super Bowl about next year's winner as if the game were a day away. This colorful, time consuming waste of time is mostly accented by the fact that you don't know which teams will show up on what weeks during the next 12 months.  Yesterday, the Indinapolis Colts didn't show up for a quarter and a half.  Personally, I think they made the right decision, but they wouldn't be the first team to lose great momentum and fall short of the charts plotting them as this year's Super Bowl winner.  The New York Football Giants didn't whow up yesterday.  Well, unless the Carolina Panthers are the second coming of the 85 Bears and haven't told us.  That was about as must win a situation as you could have had with some momentum off the prior week, the last week in their home stadium, etc.  Ker-plunk. This brings us to next Sunday's visit by the Eagles to Texas to play Dallas.  The Eagles are some 4 hours from being eliminated from 2 seed competiton, and nearly certifying back to back weekend sets against America's Publicity Machine.  And the question becomes do the Eagles go all out to make it a home and home set, or hide some tricks and get out healthysaving their best shot for the week after. Alas, the answer seems clear.  Much as I'd like to call an Eagle-Dallas game meaningless just for the uniqueness of it, the fact is, you need to sacrifice the rest and risk the injuries to secure as high a seed as you can get.     This is one even playing field coming up.   Six teams, all with some serious skills, and some serious deficincies.  You get the 3 seed, and you could host 4 or 5 in a later game since 1 (who dat) is 2-2 thanks only to overtime in the last 4 weeks and can easily be beat.  Well, maybe not easily as in Breasily, but don't tell Tampa that. Its not about not giving Dallas any confidence.  Its not about dragging them back to the Linc for the one that actually counts.  Its all about seeding.  And if the Eagles are going to carry his surprising 6 game streak seriously further, it can't hurt to treat this game seriously and win.  Losing to Dallas but turning around and beating them still might matter down the road, but this is a chance to better control longer term destiny. But, maybe the Bears beat the Vikings like 55-0 or something.  Eric Bruntlett signed with another MLB organization today, the Nats, so don't tell me that anything isn't possible.   Sometime soon, the NFL will announce its 2010 schedule.  Fans and media types will flood sports radio and message boards with projected records, capitulating with Gary Myers of the NY Daily News writing a column hours after this year’s Super Bowl about next year’s winner as if the game were a day away.

This colorful, time consuming waste of time is mostly accented by the fact that you don’t know which teams will show up on what weeks during the next 12 months.  Yesterday, the Indinapolis Colts didn’t show up for a quarter and a half.  Personally, I think they made the right decision, but they wouldn’t be the first team to lose great momentum and fall short of the charts plotting them as this year’s Super Bowl winner.  The New York Football Giants didn’t whow up yesterday.  Well, unless the Carolina Panthers are the second coming of the 85 Bears and haven’t told us.  That was about as must win a situation as you could have had with some momentum off the prior week, the last week in their home stadium, etc.  Ker-plunk.

This brings us to next Sunday’s visit by the Eagles to Texas to play Dallas.  The Eagles are some 4 hours from being eliminated from 2 seed competiton, and nearly certifying back to back weekend sets against America’s Publicity Machine.  And the question becomes do the Eagles go all out to make it a home and home set, or hide some tricks and get out healthysaving their best shot for the week after.

Alas, the answer seems clear.  Much as I’d like to call an Eagle-Dallas game meaningless just for the uniqueness of it, the fact is, you need to sacrifice the rest and risk the injuries to secure as high a seed as you can get.
   
This is one even playing field coming up.   Six teams, all with some serious skills, and some serious deficincies.  You get the 3 seed, and you could host 4 or 5 in a later game since 1 (who dat) is 2-2 thanks only to overtime in the last 4 weeks and can easily be beat.  Well, maybe not easily as in Breasily, but don’t tell Tampa that.

Its not about not giving Dallas any confidence.  Its not about dragging them back to the Linc for the one that actually counts.  Its all about seeding.  And if the Eagles are going to carry his surprising 6 game streak seriously further, it can’t hurt to treat this game seriously and win.  Losing to Dallas but turning around and beating them still might matter down the road, but this is a chance to better control longer term destiny.

But, maybe the Bears beat the Vikings like 55-0 or something.  Eric Bruntlett signed with another MLB organization today, the Nats, so don’t tell me that anything isn’t possible.

 

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