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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More news:



&lt;strong&gt;Brett Myers&#039; career as a Phillie is over&lt;/strong&gt; (Amaro is not taking long at all to start remaking the team).



&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myers said he would have been willing to sign a one-year, incentive laden deal to remain with the Phillies, but the Phillies weren&#039;t interested.&lt;/strong&gt; He also said he has no preference regarding starting or relieving with his new team. He said he would like to pitch closer to his Jacksonville, Fla., home. If he starts, he would like to start in the National League. If he is a reliever, he would pitch in either league.



&lt;/em&gt;Also, Brad Lidge is having his right elbow examined to see if he, like Scott Eyre, has &quot;loose bodies&quot; floating around inside it.  If so, it would make &quot;loose bodies&quot; as contagious as oblique strains were this year .



Last, Raul Ibanez was to have an MRI today to see if surgery is required for his injured groin/abdominal injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More news:</p>
<p><strong>Brett Myers&#8217; career as a Phillie is over</strong> (Amaro is not taking long at all to start remaking the team).</p>
<p><em><strong>Myers said he would have been willing to sign a one-year, incentive laden deal to remain with the Phillies, but the Phillies weren&#8217;t interested.</strong> He also said he has no preference regarding starting or relieving with his new team. He said he would like to pitch closer to his Jacksonville, Fla., home. If he starts, he would like to start in the National League. If he is a reliever, he would pitch in either league.</p>
<p></em>Also, Brad Lidge is having his right elbow examined to see if he, like Scott Eyre, has &#8220;loose bodies&#8221; floating around inside it.  If so, it would make &#8220;loose bodies&#8221; as contagious as oblique strains were this year .</p>
<p>Last, Raul Ibanez was to have an MRI today to see if surgery is required for his injured groin/abdominal injury.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;that sounds like they want to lose Feliz but want to get feelers on what some other guys would cost.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that sounds like they want to lose Feliz but want to get feelers on what some other guys would cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just giving The Greek a hard time - he&#039;s a long time poster.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really hope they don&#039;t pick up Feliz&#039; options. There are lots of good FA options available (both expensive and cheap) including:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chone Figgins&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Placido Polanco (if he&#039;ll switch)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Miguel Tejada (if he&#039;ll switch)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark DeRosa&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adrian Beltre&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melvin Mora&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just giving The Greek a hard time &#8211; he&#8217;s a long time poster.</p>
<p>I really hope they don&#8217;t pick up Feliz&#8217; options. There are lots of good FA options available (both expensive and cheap) including:</p>
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<li>Chone Figgins</li>
<li>Placido Polanco (if he&#8217;ll switch)</li>
<li>Miguel Tejada (if he&#8217;ll switch)</li>
<li>Mark DeRosa</li>
<li>Adrian Beltre</li>
<li>Melvin Mora</li>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Phils have picked up Cliff Lee&#039;s option for next year.  Also, Ruben Amaro stated that he has spoken with Lee&#039;s agent a couple times during the postseason about a contract extension.


Amaro also said that they have not decided on Pedro Feliz&#039; option (they have until Monday)...........


&lt;em&gt;&quot;More than anything else, what options might be out there for us,&quot; said Amaro, asked why the decision on Feliz&#039;s option is more difficult than Lee&#039;s. &quot;And deciding whether picking up his option is best suited to try to move forward. He had a solid year for us. I like the man personally. He&#039;s a great person. He&#039;s a great teammate. But I also believe in trying to improve and sometimes a change can be for the better. It doesn&#039;t necessarily mean we&#039;re going to, but it&#039;s something that we&#039;re thinking about.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Phils have picked up Cliff Lee&#8217;s option for next year.  Also, Ruben Amaro stated that he has spoken with Lee&#8217;s agent a couple times during the postseason about a contract extension.</p>
<p>Amaro also said that they have not decided on Pedro Feliz&#8217; option (they have until Monday)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p><em>&#8220;More than anything else, what options might be out there for us,&#8221; said Amaro, asked why the decision on Feliz&#8217;s option is more difficult than Lee&#8217;s. &#8220;And deciding whether picking up his option is best suited to try to move forward. He had a solid year for us. I like the man personally. He&#8217;s a great person. He&#8217;s a great teammate. But I also believe in trying to improve and sometimes a change can be for the better. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean we&#8217;re going to, but it&#8217;s something that we&#8217;re thinking about.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: PhilNetlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilNetlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,
 
Sour grapes man - big deal on the size of each parade - who cares!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,<br />
 <br />
Sour grapes man &#8211; big deal on the size of each parade &#8211; who cares!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Greek-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CNNSI headline on the Yankees parade &quot;&lt;strong&gt;Thousands &lt;/strong&gt;gather for Yankees parade&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;headlines for Phillies parade last year? &quot;&lt;strong&gt;Millions &lt;/strong&gt;gather for Phillies parade&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and that&#039;s with an city population 3 times smaller than NYC&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greek-</p>
<p>CNNSI headline on the Yankees parade &#8220;<strong>Thousands </strong>gather for Yankees parade&#8221;</p>
<p>headlines for Phillies parade last year? &#8220;<strong>Millions </strong>gather for Phillies parade&#8221;</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s with an city population 3 times smaller than NYC</p>
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		<title>By: gemma barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemma barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazing season though...amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazing season though&#8230;amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: jkay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PhilNetFan: &#039;I hope the Mets don’t go out and sign overpriced free agents – They need to rebuild and get some players who jell with team chemistry.&#039;   -   thats the first time i&#039;ve ever heard a Mets fan say something like that. everyone expects instant success these days. Phils are a victim of good timing. Beltran, Reyes, KRod, maybe Church/Francoeur; your players are much better than they perform. for some reason it just doesnt come together. who knows why.


jjg: i dont follow Hideki Matsui much but when did he become a lock for the hall of fame?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PhilNetFan: &#8216;I hope the Mets don’t go out and sign overpriced free agents – They need to rebuild and get some players who jell with team chemistry.&#8217;   &#8211;   thats the first time i&#8217;ve ever heard a Mets fan say something like that. everyone expects instant success these days. Phils are a victim of good timing. Beltran, Reyes, KRod, maybe Church/Francoeur; your players are much better than they perform. for some reason it just doesnt come together. who knows why.</p>
<p>jjg: i dont follow Hideki Matsui much but when did he become a lock for the hall of fame?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&lt;- Would baseball be “in a messy state” today had the Phillies given you your WFCx2?&gt;&gt; 

Of course, the ridiculous start times and days off to partner up with tv, ownership of clubs who either can&#039;t or won&#039;t put money into product, separate rules for separate leagues, all star game determining home field, kids playing soccer instead of baseball, baseball playing 2nd fiddle by a wide margin to football in all but a few markets around the country. 
&lt;&lt;- Girardi’s strategies worked because of absurd scheduling.  &lt;em&gt;Absurd reasoning; both teams played under same set of conditions. &gt;&gt;

&lt;/em&gt;That&#039;s why I said I accept the Yanks won.  But the fact of the matter is the season is based on one set of circumstances, and in the playoffs we had days off that enabled the Yanks to go with a 3 man rotation.  I probably sound like I&#039;m taking away from the Yankee pitchers winning/pitching well on 3 days, which I&#039;m not intending to.  Let&#039;s just say I find the playoffs dragged out too long an its a different yardstick than the regular season.

- I can’t honestly say the Yanks are better.  &lt;em&gt;What will it take beyond them outhitting &amp; outpitching Phils in 6 (with world-attention pressure mounted)? &gt;&gt;

&lt;/em&gt;It doesn&#039;t matter if they are better.  What matters is they won.  And it especially doesn&#039;t  matter if one person thinks they are better.  I don&#039;t convincingly draw that conclusion based on the series result.

- The AL has a built-in advantage.  &lt;em&gt;Except when the NL has a built-in advantage (in their home parks). &gt;&gt;

&lt;/em&gt;Clearly, my original comment, reviewed, and specifically crystal clear went over your head. Let&#039;s try again.  The AL plays about 150 gmes a year with a DH.  Therefore, it is necessary to have a good DH, which translates to a high salary (well, should).  The NL teams play about 12 games with a DH.  Why spend millions for 12 games?  So when the AL hosts, and they have a DH, they have an advantage.  And its not small.  It&#039;s 4 at bats a game.

 Michael Jordan better than Wilt?  &lt;em&gt;You obviously didn’t see Wilt play in his prime (’63-’69) .&lt;/em&gt; &gt;&gt;

Totally wrong.  

 Bo Jackson better than Jim Brown?  &lt;em&gt;Only if you like less durable, less impacting running backs than Brown.  (&lt;/em&gt;Sounds like you’re chronologically glued to the 80s, but just a guess.)&gt;&gt;

I won&#039;t contest the durability.  Based on power and speed, and not career length, though Brown wasn&#039;t long.
&lt;em&gt;-&lt;/em&gt; ‘09 team would beat the 80s squad?  &lt;em&gt;Proximity shading reality perhaps?  ‘80 squad (especially Sept./Oct. version) with airtight infield, reliable bullpen and superior bench would edge today’s heroes, in my opinion.&gt;&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;Waste of time arguing that, we&#039;ll disagree.

- HK patches, the powder blue blazer and the white bucks?  &lt;em&gt;Mawkish by now.  Enough respect has been paid to the former ”saint” behind the microphone.  Time to move on.   I’ve been a Phils fan 10 years longer than Harry – and he was handsomely paid for it (with perks)!  Lots of average Joes on the street today are as nice, but without bandwidth and built-in audience.  And By Saam and Bill Campbell before him were/are gentlemen and listenable announcers as well.&gt;&gt;

&lt;/em&gt;You don&#039;t come from the same personal experiences I do.  If you wish to try to convey a &lt;em&gt;thought&lt;/em&gt; to another person to make them see the light, that&#039;s one thing.  It&#039;s disrespectful to try to think your feelings about someone are right for others.   That&#039;s about as diplomatic a reaction as I will offer on that last comment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;&lt;- Would baseball be “in a messy state” today had the Phillies given you your WFCx2?&gt;&gt; </p>
<p>Of course, the ridiculous start times and days off to partner up with tv, ownership of clubs who either can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t put money into product, separate rules for separate leagues, all star game determining home field, kids playing soccer instead of baseball, baseball playing 2nd fiddle by a wide margin to football in all but a few markets around the country. <br />
&lt;&lt;- Girardi’s strategies worked because of absurd scheduling.  <em>Absurd reasoning; both teams played under same set of conditions. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p></em>That&#8217;s why I said I accept the Yanks won.  But the fact of the matter is the season is based on one set of circumstances, and in the playoffs we had days off that enabled the Yanks to go with a 3 man rotation.  I probably sound like I&#8217;m taking away from the Yankee pitchers winning/pitching well on 3 days, which I&#8217;m not intending to.  Let&#8217;s just say I find the playoffs dragged out too long an its a different yardstick than the regular season.</p>
<p>- I can’t honestly say the Yanks are better.  <em>What will it take beyond them outhitting &amp; outpitching Phils in 6 (with world-attention pressure mounted)? &gt;&gt;</p>
<p></em>It doesn&#8217;t matter if they are better.  What matters is they won.  And it especially doesn&#8217;t  matter if one person thinks they are better.  I don&#8217;t convincingly draw that conclusion based on the series result.</p>
<p>- The AL has a built-in advantage.  <em>Except when the NL has a built-in advantage (in their home parks). &gt;&gt;</p>
<p></em>Clearly, my original comment, reviewed, and specifically crystal clear went over your head. Let&#8217;s try again.  The AL plays about 150 gmes a year with a DH.  Therefore, it is necessary to have a good DH, which translates to a high salary (well, should).  The NL teams play about 12 games with a DH.  Why spend millions for 12 games?  So when the AL hosts, and they have a DH, they have an advantage.  And its not small.  It&#8217;s 4 at bats a game.</p>
<p> Michael Jordan better than Wilt?  <em>You obviously didn’t see Wilt play in his prime (’63-’69) .</em> &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Totally wrong.  </p>
<p> Bo Jackson better than Jim Brown?  <em>Only if you like less durable, less impacting running backs than Brown.  (</em>Sounds like you’re chronologically glued to the 80s, but just a guess.)&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t contest the durability.  Based on power and speed, and not career length, though Brown wasn&#8217;t long.<br />
<em>-</em> ‘09 team would beat the 80s squad?  <em>Proximity shading reality perhaps?  ‘80 squad (especially Sept./Oct. version) with airtight infield, reliable bullpen and superior bench would edge today’s heroes, in my opinion.&gt;&gt;<br />
</em>Waste of time arguing that, we&#8217;ll disagree.</p>
<p>- HK patches, the powder blue blazer and the white bucks?  <em>Mawkish by now.  Enough respect has been paid to the former ”saint” behind the microphone.  Time to move on.   I’ve been a Phils fan 10 years longer than Harry – and he was handsomely paid for it (with perks)!  Lots of average Joes on the street today are as nice, but without bandwidth and built-in audience.  And By Saam and Bill Campbell before him were/are gentlemen and listenable announcers as well.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p></em>You don&#8217;t come from the same personal experiences I do.  If you wish to try to convey a <em>thought</em> to another person to make them see the light, that&#8217;s one thing.  It&#8217;s disrespectful to try to think your feelings about someone are right for others.   That&#8217;s about as diplomatic a reaction as I will offer on that last comment.<br />
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		<title>By: jkay</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jjg: i never said anything about being untouchable. Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Jimmie Rollins - if you wanted to upgrade on those guys, or one of them, who would you get?   no one wants to stand in the way of progress but if what you already have is more valuable than what is out there, why try? Werth, Victorino - could move those but i just dont see any pressing need to. cant do it just for the sake of giving the minor leaguers a spot. we need pitching badly but i think we can do it without that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jjg: i never said anything about being untouchable. Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Jimmie Rollins &#8211; if you wanted to upgrade on those guys, or one of them, who would you get?   no one wants to stand in the way of progress but if what you already have is more valuable than what is out there, why try? Werth, Victorino &#8211; could move those but i just dont see any pressing need to. cant do it just for the sake of giving the minor leaguers a spot. we need pitching badly but i think we can do it without that.</p>
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