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	<title>Comments on: Phillies Rumors: Phils Make Offer To Derek Lowe?</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, the Phillies were pretty open about getting Jim Thome, who was the last big name free agent they brought in.  After winning a World Series, Moyer is probably trying to get as much money as possible before he retires.  He has a ring now.  I would love to see Lowe come to Philly.  Moyer, while he has decent numbers, is only a 6 inning starter anymore.  When he runs out of gas, he is DONE.  Charlie did a better job managing him this year, and getting him when he was done, unlike the previous year where Moyer would be great for 5 or 6 then go out and get hammered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, the Phillies were pretty open about getting Jim Thome, who was the last big name free agent they brought in.  After winning a World Series, Moyer is probably trying to get as much money as possible before he retires.  He has a ring now.  I would love to see Lowe come to Philly.  Moyer, while he has decent numbers, is only a 6 inning starter anymore.  When he runs out of gas, he is DONE.  Charlie did a better job managing him this year, and getting him when he was done, unlike the previous year where Moyer would be great for 5 or 6 then go out and get hammered.</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phillies-rumors-phils-make-offer-to-lowe/#comment-8460</link>
		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, back to Derek Lowe.

On the reassuring side, &lt;a href=&quot;http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=23885&quot; title=&quot;Rob Neyer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob Neyer&lt;/a&gt; had a column a couple days ago where he went through who would be the better choice between Burnett and Lowe.  I&#039;ll give you the upshot:

&quot;This is a tough one. Year in, year out, Lowe&#039;s performance trumps Burnett&#039;s. But Lowe is significantly older, and his performance wouldn&#039;t look quite as impressive if he had spent these past four years in the American League, like Burnett has. As always, the devil is in the details; regardless of your projections, you&#039;d rather sign Burnett for one year than Lowe for 10 years. But if I could sign just one of them for, say, five years, I would sign Lowe because I think I know what I&#039;d be getting for most of those five years. With Burnett, I just wouldn&#039;t know. &quot;

On the downside, here is Jayson Stark&#039;s take on our chances of actually getting Lowe:

&quot;Haven&#039;t gotten a confirmation of the Phillies&#039; reported offer to &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3640&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Derek Lowe&lt;/a&gt;. But agents report the Phillies have been reluctant to go beyond three years on any pitcher they&#039;ve talked about this winter -- a holdover from the Pat Gillick edict. And while they might bend that for someone, it isn&#039;t likely to be for a pitcher who turns 36 in June. Also, don&#039;t forget that during the NLCS, Lowe made it clear he wasn&#039;t the president of the Citizens Bank Park Fan Club. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, back to Derek Lowe.</p>
<p>On the reassuring side, <a href="http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=23885" title="Rob Neyer" rel="nofollow">Rob Neyer</a> had a column a couple days ago where he went through who would be the better choice between Burnett and Lowe.  I&#8217;ll give you the upshot:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a tough one. Year in, year out, Lowe&#8217;s performance trumps Burnett&#8217;s. But Lowe is significantly older, and his performance wouldn&#8217;t look quite as impressive if he had spent these past four years in the American League, like Burnett has. As always, the devil is in the details; regardless of your projections, you&#8217;d rather sign Burnett for one year than Lowe for 10 years. But if I could sign just one of them for, say, five years, I would sign Lowe because I think I know what I&#8217;d be getting for most of those five years. With Burnett, I just wouldn&#8217;t know. &#8221;</p>
<p>On the downside, here is Jayson Stark&#8217;s take on our chances of actually getting Lowe:</p>
<p>&#8220;Haven&#8217;t gotten a confirmation of the Phillies&#8217; reported offer to <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3640" rel="nofollow">Derek Lowe</a>. But agents report the Phillies have been reluctant to go beyond three years on any pitcher they&#8217;ve talked about this winter &#8212; a holdover from the Pat Gillick edict. And while they might bend that for someone, it isn&#8217;t likely to be for a pitcher who turns 36 in June. Also, don&#8217;t forget that during the NLCS, Lowe made it clear he wasn&#8217;t the president of the Citizens Bank Park Fan Club. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phillies-rumors-phils-make-offer-to-lowe/#comment-8459</link>
		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how long Minaya will be running the Mets but while he&#039;s there you&#039;ve got a shot, Pete.  Better let him know you&#039;re available ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how long Minaya will be running the Mets but while he&#8217;s there you&#8217;ve got a shot, Pete.  Better let him know you&#8217;re available ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: bball</title>
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		<dc:creator>bball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way I&#039;d pass up a few mil as an athlete.  As a fan I like to think that athletes care more about winning.  But when I put myself in his shoes I would do the same thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way I&#8217;d pass up a few mil as an athlete.  As a fan I like to think that athletes care more about winning.  But when I put myself in his shoes I would do the same thing</p>
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		<title>By: bball</title>
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		<dc:creator>bball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Amaro is looking to make a trade then Jason Donald is the right guy to deal.  I&#039;m just basing this off of what I&#039;ve read about him.  It seems that he would be a good middle IF but if moved to 3B or corner OF his power numbers would be just average.  I believe I read a scout projected him as a good average hitter with 20 hr power.  He&#039;s already 24 and will be in his late 20&#039;s by the time Jimmy&#039;s contract is up.  I think his best value to the phils is in a trade. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Amaro is looking to make a trade then Jason Donald is the right guy to deal.  I&#8217;m just basing this off of what I&#8217;ve read about him.  It seems that he would be a good middle IF but if moved to 3B or corner OF his power numbers would be just average.  I believe I read a scout projected him as a good average hitter with 20 hr power.  He&#8217;s already 24 and will be in his late 20&#8242;s by the time Jimmy&#8217;s contract is up.  I think his best value to the phils is in a trade. </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JDubbz-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Floyd is the only prospect I can remember trading recently that has amounted to anything. Though I imagine Adrian Cardenas will at least be an everyday player someday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Donald, I would be open to trading him only for an impact arm or bat that we&#039;d have for 3+ years. I believe he will be a solid MLB player, like a Victorino or Rowand. Not a superstar, but someone you want on your team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Moyer -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe this is about a multi-year deal. I read a quote from his agent or maybe just a writer saying that Moyer wanted to pitch past 2009. So my guess is the Phillies would sign him to a 2-year deal, but only for significantly less per year. That&#039;s probably the hold up. Also, instances where it isn&#039;t about the money are few and far between. $2 million dollars, is still $2 million dollars. There&#039;s very little I wouldn&#039;t do for $2 million dollars. Even play for the Mets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JDubbz-</p>
<p>Floyd is the only prospect I can remember trading recently that has amounted to anything. Though I imagine Adrian Cardenas will at least be an everyday player someday.</p>
<p>On Donald, I would be open to trading him only for an impact arm or bat that we&#8217;d have for 3+ years. I believe he will be a solid MLB player, like a Victorino or Rowand. Not a superstar, but someone you want on your team.</p>
<p>On Moyer -</p>
<p>I believe this is about a multi-year deal. I read a quote from his agent or maybe just a writer saying that Moyer wanted to pitch past 2009. So my guess is the Phillies would sign him to a 2-year deal, but only for significantly less per year. That&#8217;s probably the hold up. Also, instances where it isn&#8217;t about the money are few and far between. $2 million dollars, is still $2 million dollars. There&#8217;s very little I wouldn&#8217;t do for $2 million dollars. Even play for the Mets.</p>
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		<title>By: J Dubbz</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Dubbz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a point where baseball has more meaning than just money?  A guy like Moyer who has been in major league baseball for 20+ years has to be pretty well off, right?  Would he turn down say a $10mil deal to stay with the Phils for $8mil b/c its his hometown, loves the fans and teammates, etc?  Or is that just me being too much of a Phils fan and stuck in fantasy land?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a point where baseball has more meaning than just money?  A guy like Moyer who has been in major league baseball for 20+ years has to be pretty well off, right?  Would he turn down say a $10mil deal to stay with the Phils for $8mil b/c its his hometown, loves the fans and teammates, etc?  Or is that just me being too much of a Phils fan and stuck in fantasy land?</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;J Dubbz&lt;/strong&gt;....Agreed.  This can be about nothing other than money for Moyer, and that is disappointing. (I realize that it could be that he is looking for the security of a multi-year deal but, in essence, that equates to money as well.)

I get that it&#039;s all about the money for most, if not all, players (especially when they specifically claim it is not).  I really can understand it in many cases---a guy like Howard who put up a ROY and an MVP season while making peanuts or a guy like Burrell who is looking at his last shot at a multi-year, big money contract----but in Moyer&#039;s case I had hoped that he was past chasing a buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>J Dubbz</strong>&#8230;.Agreed.  This can be about nothing other than money for Moyer, and that is disappointing. (I realize that it could be that he is looking for the security of a multi-year deal but, in essence, that equates to money as well.)</p>
<p>I get that it&#8217;s all about the money for most, if not all, players (especially when they specifically claim it is not).  I really can understand it in many cases&#8212;a guy like Howard who put up a ROY and an MVP season while making peanuts or a guy like Burrell who is looking at his last shot at a multi-year, big money contract&#8212;-but in Moyer&#8217;s case I had hoped that he was past chasing a buck.</p>
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		<title>By: J Dubbz</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Dubbz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point being that this rumor goes against the Phils typical mentality of keeping talent within and bringing it up to the big leagues when ready.  I am sure others are drooling over this kid, but will Amaro squash that desire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point being that this rumor goes against the Phils typical mentality of keeping talent within and bringing it up to the big leagues when ready.  I am sure others are drooling over this kid, but will Amaro squash that desire?</p>
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		<title>By: J Dubbz</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Dubbz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would be a valuable trade option for Donald?  I was hoping this kid would complete our infield in another 1-2 years at 3B.  Who is available that is worth giving up our top infield prospect and possibly best hitting prospect overall?  I can&#039;t recall really any good prospects being given up in recent years that turned out to be superstars.  I know Gavin Floyd had a good season last year, but will he continue the trend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would be a valuable trade option for Donald?  I was hoping this kid would complete our infield in another 1-2 years at 3B.  Who is available that is worth giving up our top infield prospect and possibly best hitting prospect overall?  I can&#8217;t recall really any good prospects being given up in recent years that turned out to be superstars.  I know Gavin Floyd had a good season last year, but will he continue the trend?</p>
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