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	<title>Comments on: Phillies Rumors: Phils Serious About Figgins?</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phillies-rumors-phils-serious-about-figgins/#comment-23171</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what Joel Sherman blogged today on Figgins.

&lt;&lt;Phillies GM Ruben Amaro told the Post on Tuesday that he did not envision having the budget to incorporate Figgins as a third base replacement for Pedro Feliz. But SI.com reported on Wednesday that the Phillies are in the mix, which would give the Phillies the opportunity to bat Figgins atop the lineup with Shane Victorino and drop Jimmy Rollins (21 homers) to more of an RBI role.
It is likely Figgins, who will play next season at 32, will demand a three- or four-year contract at between $8 million to $10 million annually.&gt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what Joel Sherman blogged today on Figgins.</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;Phillies GM Ruben Amaro told the Post on Tuesday that he did not envision having the budget to incorporate Figgins as a third base replacement for Pedro Feliz. But SI.com reported on Wednesday that the Phillies are in the mix, which would give the Phillies the opportunity to bat Figgins atop the lineup with Shane Victorino and drop Jimmy Rollins (21 homers) to more of an RBI role.<br />
It is likely Figgins, who will play next season at 32, will demand a three- or four-year contract at between $8 million to $10 million annually.&gt;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uggla is one of my least favorite players in the MLB.  He is an atrocious fielder too, he&#039;d be a joke at 3B.  Even more hated than David Bell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uggla is one of my least favorite players in the MLB.  He is an atrocious fielder too, he&#8217;d be a joke at 3B.  Even more hated than David Bell.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uggla is absolutely abysmal in the field, and I mean terrible.  I would absolutely NOT want him to be playing the hot corner especially if he can&#039;t even handle second base.
I want to know why no one has even mentioned the option of signing Joel Pinero.  He&#039;s got a SERIOUS sinker ball that would work great if we got a good defensive third basemen such as Beltre or Figgins.  The only question is how much you are willing to pay.
The Phillies at this point need in my opinion; backup catcher, sp, at least two rp (i&#039;d love to see eyre back), 3b, and two utility players.
Oh and since there is probably no way we are going to resign Werth after this year, I wouldn&#039;t mind trading him for a top tier relief pitcher and/or ss/3rd base prospect.  Especially since we have so many OF prospects comin up and Ibanez in place for the next 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uggla is absolutely abysmal in the field, and I mean terrible.  I would absolutely NOT want him to be playing the hot corner especially if he can&#8217;t even handle second base.<br />
I want to know why no one has even mentioned the option of signing Joel Pinero.  He&#8217;s got a SERIOUS sinker ball that would work great if we got a good defensive third basemen such as Beltre or Figgins.  The only question is how much you are willing to pay.<br />
The Phillies at this point need in my opinion; backup catcher, sp, at least two rp (i&#8217;d love to see eyre back), 3b, and two utility players.<br />
Oh and since there is probably no way we are going to resign Werth after this year, I wouldn&#8217;t mind trading him for a top tier relief pitcher and/or ss/3rd base prospect.  Especially since we have so many OF prospects comin up and Ibanez in place for the next 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK then, that&#039;s a big &quot;no way in hell&quot; on Uggla.
 
Ken I saw the same thing about BAL and SF going after him for third.  I guess the Giants would move Sandoval over to first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK then, that&#8217;s a big &#8220;no way in hell&#8221; on Uggla.<br />
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Ken I saw the same thing about BAL and SF going after him for third.  I guess the Giants would move Sandoval over to first.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Uggla...

&lt;strong&gt;1:19pm:&lt;/strong&gt; The Giants and Orioles are showing the most interest in &lt;strong&gt;Dan Uggla&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10353396/Wednesday%27s-buzz-from-the-GM-meetings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports&lt;/a&gt;.  Those clubs would move Uggla to third base, a position he hasn&#039;t played since 2005 in the minors.  The writers add that the Red Sox have inquired, with an eye on using Uggla in left field.  Uggla played 20 games in the outfield in Double A in &#039;04.  Rosenthal and Morosi add that an Uggla trade would compel the Marlins to retain &lt;strong&gt;Jorge Cantu&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Uggla&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>1:19pm:</strong> The Giants and Orioles are showing the most interest in <strong>Dan Uggla</strong>, <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10353396/Wednesday%27s-buzz-from-the-GM-meetings" rel="nofollow">according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports</a>.  Those clubs would move Uggla to third base, a position he hasn&#8217;t played since 2005 in the minors.  The writers add that the Red Sox have inquired, with an eye on using Uggla in left field.  Uggla played 20 games in the outfield in Double A in &#8217;04.  Rosenthal and Morosi add that an Uggla trade would compel the Marlins to retain <strong>Jorge Cantu</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,


Within the last few days I read something (can&#039;t remember where) about us getting Uggla and moving him to 3B.  I&#039;d rather that not happen.



Granted, he can mash and many long flyballs that were outs in Land Shark Stadium should reach the seats in CBP.  However, he does strike out &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt; and I&#039;m thinking he&#039;d be more of an all-or-nothing run producer which wouldn&#039;t help our inconsistent offense get any more consistent.



Also, Fangraphs has Uggla as the second worst defensive 2nd baseman in all of baseball (with a -10.1 UZR), just ahead of Luis Castillo.  Can&#039;t imagine he&#039;d do any better at 3B.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Within the last few days I read something (can&#8217;t remember where) about us getting Uggla and moving him to 3B.  I&#8217;d rather that not happen.</p>
<p>Granted, he can mash and many long flyballs that were outs in Land Shark Stadium should reach the seats in CBP.  However, he does strike out <em>a lot</em> and I&#8217;m thinking he&#8217;d be more of an all-or-nothing run producer which wouldn&#8217;t help our inconsistent offense get any more consistent.</p>
<p>Also, Fangraphs has Uggla as the second worst defensive 2nd baseman in all of baseball (with a -10.1 UZR), just ahead of Luis Castillo.  Can&#8217;t imagine he&#8217;d do any better at 3B.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought of Uggla ealier.  I dismissed it thinking the Fish wouldn&#039;t trade him intra division.  Off the top of my head, he&#039;s not particularly consistent, and I think the Phils were turned off by Feliz&#039;s inconsistency at times.  

I have to wonder about the whole truth to any rumor involving the Mets.  They met with Boras about Holliday.  They are interested in Figgins.  Maybe they aren&#039;t as much a financial mess as I believe in my unqualified way, but one thing abou them is that they were decimated by injury last year, and I don&#039;t know that they are that great a club, but I&#039;d be careful throwing money around on what may be surplus talent.  

My thoughts on Figgins is that I don&#039;t see a detriment to offering a 4th year.  To relocate leagues and coasts could well require an extra push. I&#039;m not sure why that keeps Rollins at the top of the lineup.  The points about placing pitching above offense are very well taken.  I never said much about Feliz on the board, but I thought his defense was a valuble asset and as often as the Phils are called an American league lineup, I tought it was okay that there was a stealth drop after Rau since Feliz and Carlos are such good defenders.

Lastly, and of course most importantly, Pete, I have always suspected you were a closet AL executive.  Now that the truth is out, I&#039;m counting on you to abolish the DH rule before 1 more hot stove chat. :). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought of Uggla ealier.  I dismissed it thinking the Fish wouldn&#8217;t trade him intra division.  Off the top of my head, he&#8217;s not particularly consistent, and I think the Phils were turned off by Feliz&#8217;s inconsistency at times.  </p>
<p>I have to wonder about the whole truth to any rumor involving the Mets.  They met with Boras about Holliday.  They are interested in Figgins.  Maybe they aren&#8217;t as much a financial mess as I believe in my unqualified way, but one thing abou them is that they were decimated by injury last year, and I don&#8217;t know that they are that great a club, but I&#8217;d be careful throwing money around on what may be surplus talent.  </p>
<p>My thoughts on Figgins is that I don&#8217;t see a detriment to offering a 4th year.  To relocate leagues and coasts could well require an extra push. I&#8217;m not sure why that keeps Rollins at the top of the lineup.  The points about placing pitching above offense are very well taken.  I never said much about Feliz on the board, but I thought his defense was a valuble asset and as often as the Phils are called an American league lineup, I tought it was okay that there was a stealth drop after Rau since Feliz and Carlos are such good defenders.</p>
<p>Lastly, and of course most importantly, Pete, I have always suspected you were a closet AL executive.  Now that the truth is out, I&#8217;m counting on you to abolish the DH rule before 1 more hot stove chat. <img src='http://www.reclinergm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . </p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely like it.  I think though move Victorino or Figgins up to the #1 spot (with the other in the 2 hole)...than put Rollins down in the 6 spot.  Rollins with a horrible season still put up good run production numbers...and hitting behind the big guys...he will either be batting with the bases empty (similar to what we expect out of a leadoff hitter) or he&#039;ll have guys on and him able to produce runs is a bonus.  If we can get Chooch to step up a bit more during the season the way he has in the postseason the past two years....we&#039;ll be back in the Series for a third year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely like it.  I think though move Victorino or Figgins up to the #1 spot (with the other in the 2 hole)&#8230;than put Rollins down in the 6 spot.  Rollins with a horrible season still put up good run production numbers&#8230;and hitting behind the big guys&#8230;he will either be batting with the bases empty (similar to what we expect out of a leadoff hitter) or he&#8217;ll have guys on and him able to produce runs is a bonus.  If we can get Chooch to step up a bit more during the season the way he has in the postseason the past two years&#8230;.we&#8217;ll be back in the Series for a third year!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pete,&lt;/strong&gt; don’t think I’m being crazy in saying &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;every single player&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt; in that line-up could make the all-star team with Ruiz being the biggest reach.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;


I think even with Feliz and before Chooch blew up all of our starters were top 5 or better in AS voting last year so that&#039;s a very real possibility.


Sort of a random thought.  So Utley was on pace for a couple of MVP seasons recently but was felled by either an injury or a freak slump.  He was excellently consistent this year, is he still due for a &quot;breakout&quot; year?  I know he&#039;s arguably the best 2nd baseman in baseball, and one the 5-10 best in history but I&#039;m still kind of waiting for him to just go on a tear and get that MVP award (not that I think he gives a hot fuck about it anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Pete,</strong> don’t think I’m being crazy in saying </em><strong><em>every single player</em><em> in that line-up could make the all-star team with Ruiz being the biggest reach.</em></strong></p>
<p>I think even with Feliz and before Chooch blew up all of our starters were top 5 or better in AS voting last year so that&#8217;s a very real possibility.</p>
<p>Sort of a random thought.  So Utley was on pace for a couple of MVP seasons recently but was felled by either an injury or a freak slump.  He was excellently consistent this year, is he still due for a &#8220;breakout&#8221; year?  I know he&#8217;s arguably the best 2nd baseman in baseball, and one the 5-10 best in history but I&#8217;m still kind of waiting for him to just go on a tear and get that MVP award (not that I think he gives a hot fuck about it anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: tk76</title>
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		<dc:creator>tk76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I can see the logic in swapping a top young OF prospect with the current logjam for a young player at a position of need.  But its a big risk and can really come back to haunt the team in a couple of years if you get the short end of that kind of trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I can see the logic in swapping a top young OF prospect with the current logjam for a young player at a position of need.  But its a big risk and can really come back to haunt the team in a couple of years if you get the short end of that kind of trade.</p>
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