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		<title>By: ip changer</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18374</link>
		<dc:creator>ip changer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this blog very much because I am a good fan of cricket.</description>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18354</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So a little off the subject but I was watching sportscenter this morning and caught this segment on the mets...its a &quot;not top 10&quot; segment of the best mets fielding plays this season...it&#039;s pretty good laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv344HLDjBU

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a little off the subject but I was watching sportscenter this morning and caught this segment on the mets&#8230;its a &#8220;not top 10&#8243; segment of the best mets fielding plays this season&#8230;it&#8217;s pretty good laugh</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv344HLDjBU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv344HLDjBU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18337</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added a poll to the side bar and a new post about which prospect you would most like to hold on to in a big deal.</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18335</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would much rather start with those players too but I am guessing that the Jays will want to start wtih Happ.  He is cheap and signed though 2012 and has shown that he can already pitch in the majors.   

I would be all for replacing Drabek with Carrasco.  But everything that I have read says that they are just seeing what people will offer for Holladay.  It sounds like it is going to take a lot to blow them away to make a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much rather start with those players too but I am guessing that the Jays will want to start wtih Happ.  He is cheap and signed though 2012 and has shown that he can already pitch in the majors.   </p>
<p>I would be all for replacing Drabek with Carrasco.  But everything that I have read says that they are just seeing what people will offer for Holladay.  It sounds like it is going to take a lot to blow them away to make a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18334</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt they would include Happ in a deal, as that would deplete our current rotation and leave us still needing a 5th starter.
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&lt;div&gt;I would much rather start a package with Carrasco than Drabek, and would rather (though not by much) start with Brown over Taylor.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt they would include Happ in a deal, as that would deplete our current rotation and leave us still needing a 5th starter.</p>
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<div>I would much rather start a package with Carrasco than Drabek, and would rather (though not by much) start with Brown over Taylor.</div>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18330</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 610 WIP today they were asking the question, if you would give up J Happ, Kyle Drabeck and Michael Taylor for Holladay.  If I could replace Taylor with either Marson or Mayberry I would do it in a second.  
 
My guess is that the Blue Jays are going to be asking for a lot more than that.

I would love to see Hamels and Holladay as a 1 2 punch!  Might look something like the Schilling, Johnson combo in Arizona.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 610 WIP today they were asking the question, if you would give up J Happ, Kyle Drabeck and Michael Taylor for Holladay.  If I could replace Taylor with either Marson or Mayberry I would do it in a second. <br />
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My guess is that the Blue Jays are going to be asking for a lot more than that.</p>
<p>I would love to see Hamels and Holladay as a 1 2 punch!  Might look something like the Schilling, Johnson combo in Arizona.</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/phils-turning-the-corner-or-just-not-as-bad-as-the-mets/#comment-18327</link>
		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice column on espn.com on our 22-1 win by &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4311107&amp;name=stark_jayson&quot; title=&quot;Jayson Stark&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jason Stark&lt;/a&gt;.  In case you don&#039;t want to read the whole thing, here are a few of my favorite tidbits:

The Phillies outscored the Reds by 21 runs in this game. No other teams in their respective divisions -- the NL East and NL Central -- have even outscored their opponents by 21 runs for the &lt;em&gt;season&lt;/em&gt;.

The Reds allowed 22 runs and 10 extra-base hits in this game. ESPN research whiz Jason McCallum reports that &lt;em&gt;no NL team had given up that many runs and that many extra-base hits in any game &lt;strong&gt;since Sept. 4, 1999, when the Phillies did it -- against the Reds, of course.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

The Phillies have now done something the Eagles have never done -- beat a team from Cincinnati by 21. &lt;strong&gt;Biggest margin of victory by the Eagles in a game against the Bengals: nine, in December 2000.&lt;/strong&gt;

ESPN research savant Nick Loucks reports that there were a bunch of parallels between this game and the last time the Phillies scored 22 runs or more -- a 26-7 blowout of the Mets on June 11, 1985:
-- The Phillies were at home for both games (Citizens Bank Park on Monday, Veterans Stadium in &#039;85).
-- A Phillies outfielder hit a grand slam in both games (Jayson Werth on Monday, Von Hayes in &#039;85).
-- The Phillies&#039; first baseman was replaced early in both games (&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6097&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ryan Howard&lt;/a&gt; exiting in the fourth inning Monday, Mike Schmidt departing in the third in &#039;85).
-- Both Phillies starting pitchers&#039; initials were &quot;CH&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6216&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cole Hamels&lt;/a&gt; on Monday, Charles Hudson in &#039;85).
-- And the opposing starter didn&#039;t make it out of the first inning in either game (Cueto on Monday, Tom Gorman in &#039;85).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice column on espn.com on our 22-1 win by <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4311107&amp;name=stark_jayson" title="Jayson Stark" rel="nofollow">Jason Stark</a>.  In case you don&#8217;t want to read the whole thing, here are a few of my favorite tidbits:</p>
<p>The Phillies outscored the Reds by 21 runs in this game. No other teams in their respective divisions &#8212; the NL East and NL Central &#8212; have even outscored their opponents by 21 runs for the <em>season</em>.</p>
<p>The Reds allowed 22 runs and 10 extra-base hits in this game. ESPN research whiz Jason McCallum reports that <em>no NL team had given up that many runs and that many extra-base hits in any game <strong>since Sept. 4, 1999, when the Phillies did it &#8212; against the Reds, of course.</strong></em></p>
<p>The Phillies have now done something the Eagles have never done &#8212; beat a team from Cincinnati by 21. <strong>Biggest margin of victory by the Eagles in a game against the Bengals: nine, in December 2000.</strong></p>
<p>ESPN research savant Nick Loucks reports that there were a bunch of parallels between this game and the last time the Phillies scored 22 runs or more &#8212; a 26-7 blowout of the Mets on June 11, 1985:<br />
&#8211; The Phillies were at home for both games (Citizens Bank Park on Monday, Veterans Stadium in &#8216;85).<br />
&#8211; A Phillies outfielder hit a grand slam in both games (Jayson Werth on Monday, Von Hayes in &#8216;85).<br />
&#8211; The Phillies&#8217; first baseman was replaced early in both games (<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6097" rel="nofollow">Ryan Howard</a> exiting in the fourth inning Monday, Mike Schmidt departing in the third in &#8216;85).<br />
&#8211; Both Phillies starting pitchers&#8217; initials were &#8220;CH&#8221; (<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6216" rel="nofollow">Cole Hamels</a> on Monday, Charles Hudson in &#8216;85).<br />
&#8211; And the opposing starter didn&#8217;t make it out of the first inning in either game (Cueto on Monday, Tom Gorman in &#8216;85).</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I would make the deal.  We have depth in the outfield and at catcher, and Carrasco, while he is &lt;em&gt;probably&lt;/em&gt; the closest to major league ready, would be the least painful to part with out of our top pitching prospects, IMO.  

We finally have enough depth in the farm system to make a major move like this without crippling ourselves for years to come.  I&#039;m for taking a shot.

I know it doesn&#039;t factor in now, but if we could extend Halladay beyond 2010, either later this season or in the off season,  it would be a no-brainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I would make the deal.  We have depth in the outfield and at catcher, and Carrasco, while he is <em>probably</em> the closest to major league ready, would be the least painful to part with out of our top pitching prospects, IMO.  </p>
<p>We finally have enough depth in the farm system to make a major move like this without crippling ourselves for years to come.  I&#8217;m for taking a shot.</p>
<p>I know it doesn&#8217;t factor in now, but if we could extend Halladay beyond 2010, either later this season or in the off season,  it would be a no-brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris McC.-

I would not trade those guys for Lee. I think that&#039;s about what it will take to get Halladay. But you are talking about a Top-5 pitcher in the league who is not a 1-year rental, so you have to give up A LOT.

King Felix is going nowhere. He&#039;s only 23 and under the Mariners control until 2012. They see him as a cornerstone of their franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris McC.-</p>
<p>I would not trade those guys for Lee. I think that&#8217;s about what it will take to get Halladay. But you are talking about a Top-5 pitcher in the league who is not a 1-year rental, so you have to give up A LOT.</p>
<p>King Felix is going nowhere. He&#8217;s only 23 and under the Mariners control until 2012. They see him as a cornerstone of their franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McC.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McC.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

That&#039;s a load of talent.  We damn well better get Halladay or Cliff Lee for that.

Assuming Seattle falls out of the race in the west, what do you think it would take to pry Felix Hernandez loose??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a load of talent.  We damn well better get Halladay or Cliff Lee for that.</p>
<p>Assuming Seattle falls out of the race in the west, what do you think it would take to pry Felix Hernandez loose??</p>
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