Comments on: Quick Take on the Sixers/Wiz Game Last Night

By: Dannie

Dannie — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:37:38 +0000

Suede - I think center and point guard are the two toughest positions to fill and if given a choice between equal players I would go with one of those over SG, SF and PF.

But overall performance trumps it all. You'd take LeBron, Wade or Kobe over lesser productive centers and point guards right?

By: deepsixersuede

deepsixersuede — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:12:15 +0000

Guys, a great article by Kate Fagen in the Phila. Inquire on L.Will. today, a flat out must read. An interesting line from it: Deleo even said the decision to draft Holliday was partly influenced by Holliday!s size and style, meaning he could play alongside Williams, not instead of Williams.

By: deepsixersuede

deepsixersuede — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:40:18 +0000

Dannie, I agree with all your player comparison!s but I feel p.g. and center positions are more valuable, although center is debateble in today!s N.B.A. . Some preseason numbers to think about;
Spieghts-21.4 min.-7.9 reb.-10th in league
Sammy-20 min.-6.8 reb.-20th in league
Elton-24 min.-6 reb.-31st in league

Jru Holliday-6.6 pts-45% fg-50%3pt.-79%ft.
Would these be good numbers for his rookie year?

Rookie p.g. preseason numbers:
assists-name-ass. to turn.
6.2-Jennings-2.17
6.1-Curry-1.88
4.7-Evans-1.18
4.5-Flynn-1.17
4.3-Teague-2.00
4.1-Maynor-1.94
3.1-Lawson-3.14
2.5-Beaubois-1.5
2.4-Collison-1.7
2.3-Holliday-1.1
Jru definitely needs to get better with his decision making.

By: Dannie

Dannie — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:04:59 +0000

Suede - I'd take the Sixers because of Iguodala at this point.

But let's take a look at it player by player. Now this is not necessarily position-by-position. Like I prefer to compare Iguodala and Harris since those are the two best players at this point.

Iguodala or Harris - Edge Andre
Thad or Lee - Slight edge Thad
Lou or Douglas Roberts - Edge Lou (only because we haven't at all seen Douglass Roberts. This could change after this season)
Speights or Lopez - Edge Lopez
Holiday or Williams - Wash
Smith or Yi - Wash

I don't think either one has as bright a future as some other young cores around the league simply because they don't have that one really elite young player that sits above the rest.

Two metrics I like to use to measure whether or not a guy is a franchise type player is win share or wins produced. I think you need a player that is producing AT LEAST 15 wins produced per season and probably like 13 win shares in his prime. I really like the approach David Berri and Basketball Reference took with their advanced metrics. It's all about winning games so advanced metrics should look to tie player performance to winning games.

Iguodala was at 13.1 wins produced last season and 9.2 win shares last season his best year. Harris was at 8 wins produced and 7.2 win shares last season his best.

By: deepsixersuede

deepsixersuede — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:24:49 +0000

Dannie, if you had a choice between our young core and the Nets, who would you choose? It seems the “building with a center and p.g. first” usually pays dividends down the road and with Lee at the 2 and Douglas-Roberts and T.Williams at the 3 they really can put some athletes on the court. If Jialan can become a decent p.f. they could be good.

By: Johnnylaptop

Johnnylaptop — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:04:09 +0000

Ryan, count me in if there's still an opening, tried the e-mail but could not get it to work. Jleachko@netscape.net Thanks

By: Dannie

Dannie — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:09:38 +0000

Guest - I think too much has been made of the buzzer beaters.

They happen to every team BUT they happen more to mediocre teams that constantly put themselves in situations where one shot can beat them at the end. Sure they can go either way and MAYBE the Sixers got beat more than they should on average. The point is they keep landing in situations like that. Good teams don't. They blast weak teams and finish games strong. The Sixers didn't do that well last year and I really don't see any reason to believe they will this season either.

I think many people are overlooking or flat out ignoring the impact Andre Miller had on wins produced and how that productivity and wins produced will be replaced. If Brand doesn't make up for much of that we will be in big trouble.

By: The Real Rob

The Real Rob — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:05:09 +0000

Jrue is a project and is a raw player. He is great to have defensively and has athleticism, but his ball handling and playmaking skills must improve. In fact, our “PGs” must do a better job of distributing. That is why the Sixers must have some sort of veteran PG, whether it be a starter or a role player backing up Lou Williams. I think Antonio Daniels would be just the man to backup Lou. Having a Rafer Alston could possibly put him as the PG and Lou as the SG. Or perhaps Juan Dixon would be the other guy who can backup Lou. I think for most part, it should be and will be a veteran PG backup for Lou like a Daniels or Dixon, guys that have played for EJ. Other than the ball-handling, the turnovers, and the complacency against short handed teams, this team is very enjoyable to watch!!

GO SIXERS!!

By: RRose

RRose — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:37:38 +0000

Looks like Lawson was a steal in the draft at this point. I do like Evans as well in Sacramento. IF Jrue doesn’t pan out, I say fire the entire scouting staff for passing on Ty.

By: The Real Rob

The Real Rob — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:12:25 +0000

Complacency over short-handed teams is still the Sixers’ bug-a-boo, as well as free throw inconsistencies and turnovers.

Dannie– please keep the team evaluations rolling. I love reading them and putting my intake. Great job as always!

GO SIXERS (and PHILLIES)!!