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Rodney Carney a Sixer Again

by Dannie

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Tom Moore is reporting that the Sixers are on the verge of signing ex-Sixer wing man Rodney Carney to the veteran’s minimum.

This isn’t really a surprise.  Carney’s name was floated around as a possible addition to the wing for the Sixers.  There are better players out there who are available but given the Sixers decision to avoid long-term deals and over extended themselves with additional salary.

Like the pick up?  Dislike it?  Don’t care either way?

The roster is at 13 now.

Carney joins Iguodala, Green, Kapono, Thad and Lou Williams as wing players jockying for minutes.

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September 8, 2009

{ 25 comments… read them below or add one }

1 raro 09.08.09 at 9:07 pm

Like it!

He had a nice strong finish to the season last year. I’d rather the team invest in young potential talent like Carney than waste time with useless benchwarmers like Brezec…

2 The Real Rob 09.08.09 at 9:26 pm

The year before last year, Carney gave us a big boost on both ends of the floor.  His familiarity with his teammates would certainly come in handy.  It will be interesting to see how he thrives in the Princeton Offense.  This gives us potentially another good perimeter shooter and not put all the perimeter shooting in the hands of Kapono.  The objective is this: Brand is double teamed, kicks it out to the open shooter, that shooter could be Carney.  He really worked on that with the minutes he played for a bad Minnesota team.  Question is, can he carry that over in bench minutes?  What I want from Carney is for him to utilize his athleticism more with the Princeton Offense, have more drives to the hoop with pump fakes and facials with those long arms. (as well as great perimter shooting).  This would be a nice upgrade over Rush at a fair price.  Good job, Ed!  Low key signing there. Maybe there might be one more signing to come (ala Marshall last season Sept 08). 

GO SIXERS!! SEE YOU IN OCTOBER!!

3 deepsixersued 09.08.09 at 10:13 pm

Another 3 pt. threat, he still may have upside; I believe he is a late bloomer. Getting Kopono and Carney finally allows me to think we addressed our shooting issues. And if L.Will. can get it done from the point [35 % ? ] than Elton may have room to work.

4 Ricky - Sixers4guidos 09.09.09 at 3:24 am

Hi Dannie & crew !! Long time no talk

I would be happy to be proved wrong but Carney is far from being considered a good shooter. 35% from three and 41% overall are not that impressive, if you ask me.

He slightly improved in Minn after his disappointing years as a Sixer but it was also difficult to do worse… he’ll have his chances and maybe Jordan’s offense could be the right environment for him to blossom, but I think he seriously lacks fundamentals to be more than a decent back up in this League.

Dude is 25 y/o, played FOUR years in college – if I’m not mistaken - and still can’t dribble, nor pass the ball: check his assist stats and game logs (13 assists in FOUR MONTHS !! Nov-Dec-Jan-Feb !!!!), very scaring…

Yes, he’s an upgrade over Rush but that’s not saying much

5 Chris McC. 09.09.09 at 9:07 am

Don’t expect him to play all that much.  Wouldn’t mind seeing him take some of Willie’s minutes.  Especially if Willie doesn’t bring his grown up jump shot this season.

6 Mike 09.09.09 at 9:21 am

i agree with Ricky.  i was very disappointed with him during his time here, and don’t expect anything now.

7 jjg 09.09.09 at 10:02 am

Subpar player, pogo stick.  Impresses in streaks, but game’s demands eventually wear him down to size.  Stefanski continues entrancing budget maneuvers.  This signing is a small investment in a known, formerly disposable product.  System offense - not Carney’s bag.  Handle – wanting, court awareness – negligible.  Rabbit quick in movement though – not always a good thing in meeting design’s ends.
Maybe he gained some patience through enduring Minnesota’s October-to-April winter.  Welcome back, Rodney; you’ll notice everyone is 14 months older.  

8 Johnnylaptop 09.09.09 at 8:42 pm

  Happy to see Carney back with the Sixers.  Plays defense, has speed and can run the fast break, and I believe he will improve this year.  Feels right. Good bench player.

9 2one5 09.09.09 at 9:22 pm

Happy with the move, Rodney will give us more than Kareem Rush also would be fine with him getting Willie’s mins.

10 jjg 09.09.09 at 9:27 pm

“It’s a little weird to be traded away and then to come back.”
                                                                                      – Rodney Carney

11 sfw 09.09.09 at 9:30 pm

Hey, Rodney’s time will take away from Willie. That’s a good thing.  Hopefully, he’s matured into a decent 10-18 minute role player. Athletic and enough of a 3 pt threat to stretch the ‘D’ a bit. Great acquisition for the price.  

12 jjg 09.09.09 at 9:48 pm

Another athletic non-player.  The Sixers’ specialty.  And hopefully, the talent-needy Wolves made a grievous mistake in deliberately passing on his option year terms.   If he only knew how to play the game beyond run ‘n gun.  Willie be schoolin’ him soon – from Detroit, all the way to Memphis.

13 The Greek 09.09.09 at 10:13 pm

I’m with you Johnny, I am very happy that we got Carney back.   No one defended Iggy better in any single game one on one then Carney did last year.  He ate his lunch.

14 jjg 09.09.09 at 10:49 pm

Iggy’s a third option outside of Sixers’ context.  Not a truly tough stop.  If Carney ate lunches regularly, he’d have been retained by T’Wolves.   

15 The Greek 09.09.09 at 11:29 pm

I am happy to have hime back JJG, I thought he shoudl ahv ebeen starting over Green 2 years ago.   Has Willie Greene ever been a healthy dnp?  I would love to see that, als check out our second team

Smith
Speights
Kapono
Carney
Holliday

16 jjg 09.10.09 at 6:49 am

 The Greek,  According to hordes, Green is always a healthy DNP.  Hey, what’s a mediocre team without a convenient scapegoat?

listed 2nd team:  might not run the table during “March Madness” … Speights, best of lot, which says a lot.  Holliday, no Anfernee Hardaway.

17 dre 09.10.09 at 7:24 am

jjg, do you like anyone or anything about this team?

I agree that we’ll most likely be a middle of the road team, but it takes time to build a contender. We don’t have a buddy like Kevin McHale giving away future H.O.Fers. We have to do it the hard way.

18 Dannie 09.10.09 at 9:30 am

FYI: Stefanski has extended a camp invitation to Dionte Christmas

19 jjg 09.10.09 at 9:45 am

dre,  In answer to your question,

resounding no:  Dalembert, Williams, Iguodala, Kapono 
n0:  Brand, Carney, Brezec, coaches, administration
some:  Speights, Ivey
yes:  Young
resounding yes:  the indubitable Mr. Willie Green
just hatched/no conclusion:  Holliday

As for the taking of time to build a contender, Eddie “The Shot” has set back the clock towards that end on an alert fan base.  Longtime loyalists are running for the hills, with reason.  The once-solid tradition of the 76ers has been overexploited and mauled through time and a rolodex of changes on numerous fronts, with sycophantic, undynamic 
employees (trending to inner circle locals) littering the payroll.  Team hasn’t mattered in the big picture since Croce, a once-vital positive force, lost his power grab to a half-interested Snider and Brown, a fine coach, got out while he had options, seeing a declining talent base ahead (due, largely, to some of his and Billy King’s decisions and 
transactions).  I watch because I love basketball and have been a fan from team’s inception, but I don’t love what I see at present.

A lot of people now bust on a “graying” AI, but, through all his misdirection and faults, he took the court and left the court with ‘the eye of the tiger’ – and was supreme, more often than not.  How many present Sixers carry that winning court disposition … or that weight?
For his rare talents and on-court determination and rebel adherence to his personal code (like it or not), he’ll always be remembered.  Hope he rebounds to become more of his former self this season in Memphis, though Father Time blows the whistle on all.

20 dre 09.10.09 at 10:53 am

I agree when it comes to AI. That being said, I’ve read all too often how some people “will not spend a dime on this team”  (I’m not saying you said it). I live in Atlanta and I go to the game when they play here.

I wish some of the people in Philly could spend a season in my shoes, about five games a year is all I get to see on tv during the regular season.

21 jjg 09.10.09 at 11:55 am

dre,  Count yourself blessed – 77 times.  (Just kidding.)  But Hawks are a better collection of talent to watch, and Crawford-Smith-Collins-Teague addition trumps Kapono-Brezec-Carney-Holliday brick & mortar.        

22 jjg 09.10.09 at 12:29 pm

Evolution:  Elgin Baylor, Gus Johnson, Connie Hawkins, Spencer  
Haywood, Larry Nance, Dominique Wilkins, Amare Stoudemire,
Rodney Carney.

23 jkay 09.11.09 at 4:26 pm

 Atlanta is a talented team that constantly under-achieves. The Sixers are a one dimensional group that over-achieves, only to get exposed later on. Watching either one is pretty hard.

24 Rob_STC 09.12.09 at 11:28 am

I always liked Carney’s game. He never really flourished with the Sixers under Cheeks because for some reason he was always in his doghouse. This guy can be a decent player given the opportunity. As it has been suggested, hopefully he will take Willie’s minutes and move Willie further down the bench. My prediction is since there is such low expectations this year from the pundits and it was the opposite last year, this team will win 48 games with potential for more. I choose glass half full.    

25 Zack 09.13.09 at 6:35 pm

Great news, I think Carney takes them to another level.  Damn, this guy Stefanski is having a sneakily good offseason, IMO (just don’t sign Dionte Christmas, but give him the chance to show his stuff for some European clubs).  There’s just so much that meshes.  The main good parts:

* Maybe EJ was the right coach – the Sixers took advantage of their athleticism in 07-08 in only two of three possible ways: causing havoc and turnovers on defense, and turning those opportunities into fastbreak points.  Now, they have the potential to use a third way – by having our athletes constantly moving in a half-court offense; those extra half-steps and slightly looser angles and openings for passes SHOULD improve our half-court scoring efficiency.  I hope to see much less of the take-turns offense with its aimless, wasted passes.  What I envision when I think of what’s coming up is the success Georgetown had when John Thompson III implemented the Princeton Offense there (brief Time article here).  There’s the potential for an amazing success story here, too.

* We might start with 1, 42, 21, 9, and (I can’t believe it happened, no no no, Stefanski, it’s okay, just swallow that $5M) 23, but it feels like we can match up DEFENSIVELY with anything the other team throws at us at any time during the game.  We counter smallball with Sam/Brand/J.Smith and a combo of Iggy, Carney, Royal, Jrue and Willie.  We’re getting every rebound, we’re picking off sloppy passes, no one’s getting off an easy shot – it’s a fantastic counterattack.  You could probably throw that at a normal lineup too until they got comfortable with it.  Some more fun with lineups:

END-OF-GAME: Iguodala, Sam, Kapono, Carney, Royal (No effin’ way Lou’s in there, do you guys remember how he had his hands on his knees during that Boston game when Iggy was trying to get off his hero shot? UNFORGIVABLE)

THE BRAND & LOU LINEUP (these guys need their space, and we’re going to play ‘em ‘cuz we paid ‘em; Lou’s gotta be paired w/someone who plays defense): Brand, J.Smith, Kapono, Lou, and Royal/Carney

GET-A-STOP: Sam, Brand, Iguodala, Carney, and Jrue/Royal

ONE OF MO CHEEKS’ BEST LINEUPS FROM 07-08: J.Smith, Thad, Iguodala, Carney and Lou

I don’t have Speights in there.  I don’t wanna see a lot of the guy – I gave him one year, and he played no defense; he stole a few balls, blocked a few, but was generally Antoine Walker-esque on the working end of the court.  I got all excited by Hollinger’s ratings of the guys, but this is one of those cases where those fancy gleaming stats don’t accurately reflect what a no-presence softee he was.  I like the offense – given the opportunity, he’s going to be one of those great all-offense, no defense forwards (Ricky Davis, Cedric Ceballos, the aforementioned Antoine Walker, Orlando Woolridge…  I feel like I should know more of these guys, I guess my memory’s going…).  It’s fitting that the two guys he’s most compared to, Amare and Al Jefferson, aren’t exactly known for their defense, either.  But those guys are forces to be reckoned with and have enough of that Malik Rose-, Jerome “Junkyard Dog” Williams-type of hunger to be game-changers on a regular basis.

* Another signing I really liked: the Primoz Brezec signing.  No more Reggie Evans at center.  Smith and Speights can slide over to their more natural PF positions, and will play better.  Those two cats play better and we win more.  All PB needs to do is be an effective backup C, and I think he will.  Simple stuff.

To sum: with the Carney signing, the Sixers have added just enough dimensions to their team to become a pretty tough matchup for anybody.  I think they get the East 4th seed this year and make it out of the first round.  I wouldn’t put the Eastern Conference Finals past this team.

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