Comments on: Simple Question: Do You Want the Sixers to Keep Winning? http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/ Philly sports blog for diehard Sixers & Phillies fans Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:10:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Derek Bodner http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27824 Derek Bodner Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:08:53 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27824 Simple Answer: <a href="http://www.phillyarena.com/archives/2010-01-07/I-want-the-Sixers-to-lose" rel="nofollow">no</a> Simple Answer: no

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27821 jkay Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:23:42 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27821 LA Steve: i agree with you that Sammy's growth is ascending, just not as fast5 as you think. When he becomes a free agent; a) he will make some team very good b) ppl will be surprised how much his services will go for. LA Steve: i agree with you that Sammy’s growth is ascending, just not as fast5 as you think. When he becomes a free agent; a) he will make some team very good b) ppl will be surprised how much his services will go for.

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27819 tk76 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:04:22 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27819 I take that as good news.   I'd be fine with a Brand/Iguodala nuclear trade.  But otherwise I don't want to see them trade Iguodala right now.  It would be great to see a new coach and probably a new GM.  But if you are keeping Brand, what is the rush top trade Iguodala?  There are other less devastating ways to save 3M to stay under the tax.   And no reason to dump Sam at all.  He comes off the cap in 1 year, no reason to dump him now if you don't get anything in return.  Next year he will actually have positive value as an expiring. I take that as good news.
 
I’d be fine with a Brand/Iguodala nuclear trade.  But otherwise I don’t want to see them trade Iguodala right now.  It would be great to see a new coach and probably a new GM.  But if you are keeping Brand, what is the rush top trade Iguodala?  There are other less devastating ways to save 3M to stay under the tax.
 
And no reason to dump Sam at all.  He comes off the cap in 1 year, no reason to dump him now if you don’t get anything in return.  Next year he will actually have positive value as an expiring.

]]> By: Dannie http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27818 Dannie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:56:03 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27818 <blockquote> <p><strong>RCFwhatsup (Philly)</strong></p> <p>Where is Andre Iguodala playing on Feb. 19th?</p> <p><strong>John Hollinger (2:40 PM)</strong></p> <p>Philadelphia. I'm highly skeptical of the Phoenix rumor because both teams are looking to cut money so they don't make natural trade partners. I think the Sixers are exploring every option, but that's different from saying they're actively trying to move the guy.</p> </blockquote>

RCFwhatsup (Philly)

Where is Andre Iguodala playing on Feb. 19th?

John Hollinger (2:40 PM)

Philadelphia. I’m highly skeptical of the Phoenix rumor because both teams are looking to cut money so they don’t make natural trade partners. I think the Sixers are exploring every option, but that’s different from saying they’re actively trying to move the guy.

]]> By: L.A. Steve http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27815 L.A. Steve Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:23:26 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27815 Well, it appears that this debate has reached the end of the line, with my worthy foe (jjg) coming to the conclusion that Sam Dalmebert's growth line is flat, and will remain that way for the rest of his career, in other words, he is what he is, and that's all he will be. Whereas, I, the advocate, believe that Sam's growth is ascending, both offensively and defensively, but  especially on the offensive side.  My thoughts are he is in the process of putting together the components of an offensive game, and, if he is given more touches in the low post he'll have some success, which will increase his confidence and lead to further success.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It appears to me that the game is starting to slow down for Sam, and he is starting to develop some confidence that he can play both sides of the court.  The problem is that being an interior player he needs somebody to throw him the ball in the right place, (low post), at the right time.  Unfortunately, his teammates aren't willing to sacrifice any of their shots in order to afford him an opportunity to develop, and the coaching staff doesn't call any plays that would give him the ball in the low post, consequently, his progress is being impeded.                                                                                                                                                            Who's right in this mini debate, only time will tell. I expect Sam will be playing in the league for a long time.  The way he takes care of his body, (his diet is optimal), and his ability to say in the lineup,  I expect he'll play into his 40's.  I think he's physically gifted and has talent, so we'll just have to sit back and see how it plays out.  Whether the Sixers give him the opportunity or it's some other team, somebody's going to include him in their offensive schemes, and then will see.  My expectations are that  he'll do quite well.         Well, it appears that this debate has reached the end of the line, with my worthy foe (jjg) coming to the conclusion that Sam Dalmebert’s growth line is flat, and will remain that way for the rest of his career, in other words, he is what he is, and that’s all he will be. Whereas, I, the advocate, believe that Sam’s growth is ascending, both offensively and defensively, but  especially on the offensive side.  My thoughts are he is in the process of putting together the components of an offensive game, and, if he is given more touches in the low post he’ll have some success, which will increase his confidence and lead to further success. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
It appears to me that the game is starting to slow down for Sam, and he is starting to develop some confidence that he can play both sides of the court.  The problem is that being an interior player he needs somebody to throw him the ball in the right place, (low post), at the right time.  Unfortunately, his teammates aren’t willing to sacrifice any of their shots in order to afford him an opportunity to develop, and the coaching staff doesn’t call any plays that would give him the ball in the low post, consequently, his progress is being impeded.  
                                                                                                                                                        
Who’s right in this mini debate, only time will tell. I expect Sam will be playing in the league for a long time.  The way he takes care of his body, (his diet is optimal), and his ability to say in the lineup,  I expect he’ll play into his 40’s.  I think he’s physically gifted and has talent, so we’ll just have to sit back and see how it plays out.  Whether the Sixers give him the opportunity or it’s some other team, somebody’s going to include him in their offensive schemes, and then will see.  My expectations are that  he’ll do quite well.        

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27812 tk76 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:49:23 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27812 Dannie, I agree with you for the most part.  The Brand signing was a mistake, but was not negligence  like the EJ signing.  And it would not be easy to find a taker for Brand.  I also think he wants to get a mulligan on some of his previous decisions.  But I do think he wants top do it in a way that saves face.   But that Gordon rumor scare the heck out of me.  It is exactly the type of move I fear.  It would bring in a EJ type player (undersized SG) and dump his top defenders.  It also would let him claim he is making a "basketball decision" instead of dumping contracts.     Dannie, I agree with you for the most part.  The Brand signing was a mistake, but was not negligence  like the EJ signing.  And it would not be easy to find a taker for Brand.  I also think he wants to get a mulligan on some of his previous decisions.  But I do think he wants top do it in a way that saves face.
 
But that Gordon rumor scare the heck out of me.  It is exactly the type of move I fear.  It would bring in a EJ type player (undersized SG) and dump his top defenders.  It also would let him claim he is making a “basketball decision” instead of dumping contracts.
 
 

]]> By: Dannie http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27807 Dannie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:49:46 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27807 <p>I am somewhat torn on Stefanski and his ability (mentally, strategically and tactically) to make the right moves.</p> <p>I get that trading away Brand, Lou or Iguodala might look like admitting a mistake.  So what, it's the NBA and I think for a GM they have to know this.  Why else would the owners be trying to drastically change the CBA to decrease max contracts, create a hard cap and make contracts shorter/less guaranteed?  They know bad signings and mistakes happen with regularity.  It's not something new OR something to stick your head in the sand over.  It happens.  Shit doesn't pan out sometimes.</p> <p>Everyone in the world would agree the main hole the Sixers needed to fill was at PF and someone who could be a go-to and reliable (efficient) option on the low block in the half court.</p> <p>Brand looked like he fit.  He got hurt again.  so his transition was slowed and now it looks like a failure.  So what.  That happens in this league.  Players don't play to their capabilities sometimes.</p> <p>Where I would have issue is if he still thinks his initial plan is still worth pursuing as is.  That would be a big FAIL on this part.</p> <p>If the team continues to suck, that is a big FAIL on his part.</p> <p>I think if there was a taker for Brand in a deal that didn't keep the Sixers in the exact same situation with a similar contract and player he would have done it by now.  I think he IS trying to trade Brand and would gladly get rid of him asap if possible.  I just am not seeing that being a realistic possibility to this point.  Maybe as the deadline gets closer that might change.</p> <p>Because of that he is now looking to move his next two biggest contracts. I think it's a priority order of such and he went through Brand already with nothing out there.  Now its Iguodala and Sam.</p> <p>I don't think he wants to trade Iguodala at all.  But he may feel like he doesn't have a choice if he is getting pressure to cut salary AND the league has black balled Elton Brand.</p> <p>I am just saying I don't think it's as easy as we all think to make the ideal moves.</p> <p>That three-way deal sounds like nonsense to me and I am not putting much into it at this point.</p> <p>NOW, the one move I do think his judgment is clouded on is the Eddie Jordan.  For one it's his buddy and two going through coaches this much in a short period of time DOES really look bad on the GM IMO.  I think Jordan should have been fired a while ago and the only reason he hasn't is because of some part loyalty and some part stubbornness.</p> I am somewhat torn on Stefanski and his ability (mentally, strategically and tactically) to make the right moves.

I get that trading away Brand, Lou or Iguodala might look like admitting a mistake.  So what, it’s the NBA and I think for a GM they have to know this.  Why else would the owners be trying to drastically change the CBA to decrease max contracts, create a hard cap and make contracts shorter/less guaranteed?  They know bad signings and mistakes happen with regularity.  It’s not something new OR something to stick your head in the sand over.  It happens.  Shit doesn’t pan out sometimes.

Everyone in the world would agree the main hole the Sixers needed to fill was at PF and someone who could be a go-to and reliable (efficient) option on the low block in the half court.

Brand looked like he fit.  He got hurt again.  so his transition was slowed and now it looks like a failure.  So what.  That happens in this league.  Players don’t play to their capabilities sometimes.

Where I would have issue is if he still thinks his initial plan is still worth pursuing as is.  That would be a big FAIL on this part.

If the team continues to suck, that is a big FAIL on his part.

I think if there was a taker for Brand in a deal that didn’t keep the Sixers in the exact same situation with a similar contract and player he would have done it by now.  I think he IS trying to trade Brand and would gladly get rid of him asap if possible.  I just am not seeing that being a realistic possibility to this point.  Maybe as the deadline gets closer that might change.

Because of that he is now looking to move his next two biggest contracts. I think it’s a priority order of such and he went through Brand already with nothing out there.  Now its Iguodala and Sam.

I don’t think he wants to trade Iguodala at all.  But he may feel like he doesn’t have a choice if he is getting pressure to cut salary AND the league has black balled Elton Brand.

I am just saying I don’t think it’s as easy as we all think to make the ideal moves.

That three-way deal sounds like nonsense to me and I am not putting much into it at this point.

NOW, the one move I do think his judgment is clouded on is the Eddie Jordan.  For one it’s his buddy and two going through coaches this much in a short period of time DOES really look bad on the GM IMO.  I think Jordan should have been fired a while ago and the only reason he hasn’t is because of some part loyalty and some part stubbornness.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27805 Marcus Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:35:19 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27805 Stephen Smith brought up a good question. Where the hell is Ed Snider???????????? I dont follow NHL or The flyers but i have heard if Snider took the same care he does with the Flyers the sixers would be alright. Does anybody know if that statement is true????????????? Stephen Smith brought up a good question. Where the hell is Ed Snider???????????? I dont follow NHL or The flyers but i have heard if Snider took the same care he does with the Flyers the sixers would be alright. Does anybody know if that statement is true?????????????

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27803 tk76 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:17:12 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27803 "Arizona Republic talks about a possible <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/02/08/20100208suns-stoudemire-trade-defense.html" rel="nofollow">three-team scenario that could include Detroit</a>." This illustrates why I've been calling for Stefanski to be fired.  Its not necessarily for past mistakes.  He needs to be fired because he is to compromised by his current baggage to make the right moves going forward. The Sixers need to undue some mistakes.  They need to fire EJ and get out of the cap nightmare caused by the 180M signings of Brand/Iguodala/Lou (that does not mean dump all of them, but they can't keep the status quo.) This rumored 3 way deal, looks like the type of move Stefanski likely will try to make.  He will move Iguodala+junk for a big expiring, and then leverage that expiring into another long term "name" player like Gordon.  This way Stefanski can say he made a "Basketball Decision"   that reduced the cap while helping the team... but in reality he would just make the problem worse by adding lesser players with long term contracts. Stefanski should try and find whatever deal to dump Brand- even if that means giving away Iguyodala and young talent.  But he is not free to make the right move, because it just make him look bad by showing how horribly his signings turned out. “Arizona Republic talks about a possible three-team scenario that could include Detroit.”

This illustrates why I’ve been calling for Stefanski to be fired.  Its not necessarily for past mistakes.  He needs to be fired because he is to compromised by his current baggage to make the right moves going forward.
The Sixers need to undue some mistakes.  They need to fire EJ and get out of the cap nightmare caused by the 180M signings of Brand/Iguodala/Lou (that does not mean dump all of them, but they can’t keep the status quo.)

This rumored 3 way deal, looks like the type of move Stefanski likely will try to make.  He will move Iguodala+junk for a big expiring, and then leverage that expiring into another long term “name” player like Gordon.  This way Stefanski can say he made a “Basketball Decision”   that reduced the cap while helping the team… but in reality he would just make the problem worse by adding lesser players with long term contracts.

Stefanski should try and find whatever deal to dump Brand- even if that means giving away Iguyodala and young talent.  But he is not free to make the right move, because it just make him look bad by showing how horribly his signings turned out.

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/simple-question-do-you-want-the-sixers-to-keep-winning/#comment-27801 jjg Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:02:04 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=9189#comment-27801 L.A. Steve,  Sam serves his team best when he intelligently defends (rapid pick-up of personal fouls are lethal to his effectiveness), energetically rebounds (<em>usually</em> commendable there), quickly outlets and vigorously trails the break with a secondary offensive ego nicely in its place.  He's done growing.  The pains are what we fans have when he forgets who he is in the context of a bball court.  With AI fuzzies & Haiti emergency adrenaline having subsided, it's back to grinding it out, working at a game he views (imo) as necessary compensatory recreation or a mock-serious trivial pursuit. L.A. Steve,  Sam serves his team best when he intelligently defends (rapid pick-up of personal fouls are lethal to his effectiveness), energetically rebounds (usually commendable there), quickly outlets and vigorously trails the break with a secondary offensive ego nicely in its place.  He’s done growing.  The pains are what we fans have when he forgets who he is in the context of a bball court.  With AI fuzzies & Haiti emergency adrenaline having subsided, it’s back to grinding it out, working at a game he views (imo) as necessary compensatory recreation or a mock-serious trivial pursuit.

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