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		<title>By: Lonnie Fuller</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-trade-talk-working-with-the-chicago-bulls/#comment-16768</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dannie,
The Sixers are stuck in no man&#039;s land, that languishing place where you get to the playoffs and bow out early.  You don&#039;t get a top 5 pick and you&#039;re forced to sign average players to big contracts because your fan base won&#039;t tolerate blowing the whole thing up.  From that point, any move that doesn&#039;t get you a stud is treading water.  If they were a 25 win team I would agree with you.  At that point, you want a trade that makes you better even if it doesn&#039;t land the stud.  The current team finished in the bottom half of the conference playoff pool and lost in the first round without Brand or Jason Smith.  Adding those two players to the mix with further improvement by Young and Speights should get you the fourth spot in the conference, home court advantage in the first round and a first round series win.  From there, the next step should be stud.  They are close enough that adding a stud, get&#039;s them into the conference finals at least.  Go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dannie,<br />
The Sixers are stuck in no man&#8217;s land, that languishing place where you get to the playoffs and bow out early.  You don&#8217;t get a top 5 pick and you&#8217;re forced to sign average players to big contracts because your fan base won&#8217;t tolerate blowing the whole thing up.  From that point, any move that doesn&#8217;t get you a stud is treading water.  If they were a 25 win team I would agree with you.  At that point, you want a trade that makes you better even if it doesn&#8217;t land the stud.  The current team finished in the bottom half of the conference playoff pool and lost in the first round without Brand or Jason Smith.  Adding those two players to the mix with further improvement by Young and Speights should get you the fourth spot in the conference, home court advantage in the first round and a first round series win.  From there, the next step should be stud.  They are close enough that adding a stud, get&#8217;s them into the conference finals at least.  Go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: RRose</title>
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		<dc:creator>RRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to see what a healthy Brand can do with a quicker, better defending, better shooting PG and SG along side of him.  After watching just about every game this past season, after watching every buzzer beater loss, after watching that 7 game skid with that deer in the headlights coaching style of Dileo, I think its quite possible this team can win 5-9 more games in the 2009-2010 season with a better supporting cast and coach. 

So many people say picking at #17 won&#039;t provide the type of impact player this team needs to turn the corner.  Why not?  Anybody see what Rondo has done for the Celtics without a healthy KG?  Now he&#039;s not the shooter we&#039;d like but nobody can&#039;t tell me if that same person was in the draft this year he wouldn&#039;t be a top 5 pick in this draft.   And he was the 21st pick in the first round.  Let&#039;s just hope this organization&#039;s doing its homework and find a good, not necessarily great player at #17.  Enough good players can help them win a lot of games. Enough bad players like Dummy Bear, Evans, Ivey will continue to keep this team hovering around .500 every season.  I&#039;m hoping ES makes his coaching decision before June 25th.  Maybe that would give us all a sense of what type of player they&#039;ll look for in the draft. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to see what a healthy Brand can do with a quicker, better defending, better shooting PG and SG along side of him.  After watching just about every game this past season, after watching every buzzer beater loss, after watching that 7 game skid with that deer in the headlights coaching style of Dileo, I think its quite possible this team can win 5-9 more games in the 2009-2010 season with a better supporting cast and coach. </p>
<p>So many people say picking at #17 won&#8217;t provide the type of impact player this team needs to turn the corner.  Why not?  Anybody see what Rondo has done for the Celtics without a healthy KG?  Now he&#8217;s not the shooter we&#8217;d like but nobody can&#8217;t tell me if that same person was in the draft this year he wouldn&#8217;t be a top 5 pick in this draft.   And he was the 21st pick in the first round.  Let&#8217;s just hope this organization&#8217;s doing its homework and find a good, not necessarily great player at #17.  Enough good players can help them win a lot of games. Enough bad players like Dummy Bear, Evans, Ivey will continue to keep this team hovering around .500 every season.  I&#8217;m hoping ES makes his coaching decision before June 25th.  Maybe that would give us all a sense of what type of player they&#8217;ll look for in the draft. </p>
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		<title>By: Dave T</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-trade-talk-working-with-the-chicago-bulls/#comment-16724</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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Morty:  I agree with you about how we&#039;d be trading Brand at his lowest value.  In fact, I think one of the biggest reasons we have damn near zilch manueverability right now as far as trades...big OR small...is that almost all of our pieces we would realistically look to move we&#039;d be trading with their stocks incredibly low:


-Brand...coming off major knee and shoulder injuries
-Lou...coming off an atrociously terrible season (although, mysteriously as others have mentioned it seems many columnists around the league are not privy to this)
-W Green...pretty clear by now he&#039;s considered, rightly so, just an energy guy that can play D and slash a bit.
-J Smith...coming off a major injury.
-D-Bere...after a year under Mo where he averaged a double double, resorted back to inconsistent form, putting up an 6.5-8.5-1.8.  


Ratliff and Rush are going to be let go.  We&#039;ll probably keep Marshall and Ivey.  Lord only knows what the A-Miller situation is.   Many teams I&#039;m sure like Reggie Evans&#039; game, but not at the $4-5 million price tag.  &quot;Trading Iguodala&quot; was the item of last summer...it is clear we are, and should be, keeping him now.  


Given all that, if you were another team, would YOU want to take a flier on any of the above five players?  Unless you are the Timberwolves or Memphis and in desperate need of a Center that can rebound/block...or a Golden State, N Orleans or the Clippers that could use some backcourt punch off the bench...our pieces kinda suck to move around in packages that could net us something in return.


That said, I DO think it&#039;s very possible to improve our bench through the draft.  I think we should look to make some tweak trades involving Lou Williams and Willie Greene to teams that are backcourt starved, and have lower 1st round picks that won&#039;t be very useful to them.  I&#039;d very happily love to use our 17th pick and maybe a second 1st round pick in the 18-23 range to nab us a backup SG/SF that can shoot 3&#039;s, and a legitimate backup PG.


The biggest loss in losing Brand last year was the fact that we never got to see what we got.  The decision would be easy to make if we knew Brand had game left, but he couldn&#039;t fit right with our pieces.  That means this year needs to be our &quot;last year&quot;...we need a year to see how things gel before making a sideways lateral move like Hinrich/Thomas.  


Mentioned this in another thread, curious to see what others thing (ignoring logistics)...if Memphis takes Rubio, what would people think about pursuing Mike Conley Jr?  He improved his shooting immensely, hitting 90 threes at a 40% clip last year.  Throwback guy that gets others involved first, and is young, extremely athletic, and a little dart of energy to team with Iggy and Thad.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morty:  I agree with you about how we&#8217;d be trading Brand at his lowest value.  In fact, I think one of the biggest reasons we have damn near zilch manueverability right now as far as trades&#8230;big OR small&#8230;is that almost all of our pieces we would realistically look to move we&#8217;d be trading with their stocks incredibly low:</p>
<p>-Brand&#8230;coming off major knee and shoulder injuries<br />
-Lou&#8230;coming off an atrociously terrible season (although, mysteriously as others have mentioned it seems many columnists around the league are not privy to this)<br />
-W Green&#8230;pretty clear by now he&#8217;s considered, rightly so, just an energy guy that can play D and slash a bit.<br />
-J Smith&#8230;coming off a major injury.<br />
-D-Bere&#8230;after a year under Mo where he averaged a double double, resorted back to inconsistent form, putting up an 6.5-8.5-1.8.  </p>
<p>Ratliff and Rush are going to be let go.  We&#8217;ll probably keep Marshall and Ivey.  Lord only knows what the A-Miller situation is.   Many teams I&#8217;m sure like Reggie Evans&#8217; game, but not at the $4-5 million price tag.  &#8221;Trading Iguodala&#8221; was the item of last summer&#8230;it is clear we are, and should be, keeping him now.  </p>
<p>Given all that, if you were another team, would YOU want to take a flier on any of the above five players?  Unless you are the Timberwolves or Memphis and in desperate need of a Center that can rebound/block&#8230;or a Golden State, N Orleans or the Clippers that could use some backcourt punch off the bench&#8230;our pieces kinda suck to move around in packages that could net us something in return.</p>
<p>That said, I DO think it&#8217;s very possible to improve our bench through the draft.  I think we should look to make some tweak trades involving Lou Williams and Willie Greene to teams that are backcourt starved, and have lower 1st round picks that won&#8217;t be very useful to them.  I&#8217;d very happily love to use our 17th pick and maybe a second 1st round pick in the 18-23 range to nab us a backup SG/SF that can shoot 3&#8242;s, and a legitimate backup PG.</p>
<p>The biggest loss in losing Brand last year was the fact that we never got to see what we got.  The decision would be easy to make if we knew Brand had game left, but he couldn&#8217;t fit right with our pieces.  That means this year needs to be our &#8220;last year&#8221;&#8230;we need a year to see how things gel before making a sideways lateral move like Hinrich/Thomas.  </p>
<p>Mentioned this in another thread, curious to see what others thing (ignoring logistics)&#8230;if Memphis takes Rubio, what would people think about pursuing Mike Conley Jr?  He improved his shooting immensely, hitting 90 threes at a 40% clip last year.  Throwback guy that gets others involved first, and is young, extremely athletic, and a little dart of energy to team with Iggy and Thad.  </p>
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		<title>By: Dannie</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-trade-talk-working-with-the-chicago-bulls/#comment-16723</link>
		<dc:creator>Dannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 14:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lonnie&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - Welcome.  But I gotta say I think your comment is shortsighted.  

First let me say if you&#039;ve followed this blog at all I&#039;ve said for a very long time that it takes an elite player (HOF pretty much) to win a championship.  Everyone around here already knows my opinion on that.

Second I have to ask, is it realistic to think a single trade would get the Sixers to the finals?  If someone knows of it please let me and more importantly Ed Stefanski know.  Most of the championships that are won the elite level player was with the team since they were drafted.  What Boston did took more than a single move.  So to dismiss a deal because it doesn&#039;t get them to a finals again is shortsighted.

What this deal does is get the Sixers from underneath Brand&#039;s contract (he isn&#039;t the elite guy so the money probably could be better spent elsewhere) but it also nets you the type of point guard this team needs (younger, defensive shooter) considering our wing players AND most importantly (the last paragraph in the post) it regains cap flexibility to try and acquire that elite level player necessary to win a championship while maintaining the young core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Lonnie</em></strong> &#8211; Welcome.  But I gotta say I think your comment is shortsighted.  </p>
<p>First let me say if you&#8217;ve followed this blog at all I&#8217;ve said for a very long time that it takes an elite player (HOF pretty much) to win a championship.  Everyone around here already knows my opinion on that.</p>
<p>Second I have to ask, is it realistic to think a single trade would get the Sixers to the finals?  If someone knows of it please let me and more importantly Ed Stefanski know.  Most of the championships that are won the elite level player was with the team since they were drafted.  What Boston did took more than a single move.  So to dismiss a deal because it doesn&#8217;t get them to a finals again is shortsighted.</p>
<p>What this deal does is get the Sixers from underneath Brand&#8217;s contract (he isn&#8217;t the elite guy so the money probably could be better spent elsewhere) but it also nets you the type of point guard this team needs (younger, defensive shooter) considering our wing players AND most importantly (the last paragraph in the post) it regains cap flexibility to try and acquire that elite level player necessary to win a championship while maintaining the young core.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lonnie Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 13:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That trade won&#039;t help the sixers get to the finals.  Getting to the finals requires top level studs surrounded by good role players.  The studs have to be guys who can occasionally get you freak numbers, especially when it counts.  AI the first, went nuts in the 2001 playoffs with several games over 40.  Moses could get you 25 rebounds.  LeBron had 40 last night and only made 2 jumpers all night.  Kobe dropped the silent 41 on Denver.  Melo dropped 30+ for 5 straight playoff games.  You need at least one guy, who can dominate what he does and carry your team.  Neither Brand, Hinrich or Tyrus can do that.  Therefore it doesn&#039;t matter.  

BTW, came to your site from the basketball reference Brand page sponsorship .  I&#039;ll follow along to see how much reality is here.

Long-time Philly guy stuck in HBG for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That trade won&#8217;t help the sixers get to the finals.  Getting to the finals requires top level studs surrounded by good role players.  The studs have to be guys who can occasionally get you freak numbers, especially when it counts.  AI the first, went nuts in the 2001 playoffs with several games over 40.  Moses could get you 25 rebounds.  LeBron had 40 last night and only made 2 jumpers all night.  Kobe dropped the silent 41 on Denver.  Melo dropped 30+ for 5 straight playoff games.  You need at least one guy, who can dominate what he does and carry your team.  Neither Brand, Hinrich or Tyrus can do that.  Therefore it doesn&#8217;t matter.  </p>
<p>BTW, came to your site from the basketball reference Brand page sponsorship .  I&#8217;ll follow along to see how much reality is here.</p>
<p>Long-time Philly guy stuck in HBG for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 01:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Sixers could get Thomas and Hinrich for Brand, Stefanski should do it immediately. Dannie&#039;s right that some people might think Brand can still play. Another subpar or injury-filled season and that idea could be out the window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Sixers could get Thomas and Hinrich for Brand, Stefanski should do it immediately. Dannie&#8217;s right that some people might think Brand can still play. Another subpar or injury-filled season and that idea could be out the window.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 01:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford coached at the Division III level  (Brandeis) from 2001-03 before coming to the Sixers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford coached at the Division III level  (Brandeis) from 2001-03 before coming to the Sixers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 00:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with this idea that Brand can&#039;t get any lower.  He can get a hell of a lot lower.  

Right now I think there is belief he actually can still play the game at a high level.  Forget the injuries I am talking ability to play the game and produce.  That is still an unknown in my opinion.  If we keep him and he comes out next season and doesn&#039;t/can&#039;t produce consistently that is when he will be at his lowest and 100% untradable.  Conversely if he comes out and can play, stay healthy and produce why then would you move him?  I don&#039;t think Stefanski would move him if that turns out to be the case so the idea that you wait until he proves he can play before you move him just doesn&#039;t hold with me much.

You could make the argument to sell him now to a team that thinks like many fans and the Sixers do that his injuries were unrelated fluke type injuries that doesn&#039;t suggest physically he is incapable of playing before the worst case scenario happens when he shows he can&#039;t even get it done on the court when he is healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with this idea that Brand can&#8217;t get any lower.  He can get a hell of a lot lower.  </p>
<p>Right now I think there is belief he actually can still play the game at a high level.  Forget the injuries I am talking ability to play the game and produce.  That is still an unknown in my opinion.  If we keep him and he comes out next season and doesn&#8217;t/can&#8217;t produce consistently that is when he will be at his lowest and 100% untradable.  Conversely if he comes out and can play, stay healthy and produce why then would you move him?  I don&#8217;t think Stefanski would move him if that turns out to be the case so the idea that you wait until he proves he can play before you move him just doesn&#8217;t hold with me much.</p>
<p>You could make the argument to sell him now to a team that thinks like many fans and the Sixers do that his injuries were unrelated fluke type injuries that doesn&#8217;t suggest physically he is incapable of playing before the worst case scenario happens when he shows he can&#8217;t even get it done on the court when he is healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: jjg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, I don&#039;t consider Ford to be a coach.  When did he pay his dues at lower levels?  He&#039;s in &#039;the club&#039; &amp; a lifer, but coach? - that&#039;s a stretch.  Bird &quot;coached&quot; his best teams.  (Was a nice component player though.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, I don&#8217;t consider Ford to be a coach.  When did he pay his dues at lower levels?  He&#8217;s in &#8216;the club&#8217; &amp; a lifer, but coach? &#8211; that&#8217;s a stretch.  Bird &#8220;coached&#8221; his best teams.  (Was a nice component player though.)</p>
<p>Good feeds today, Tom. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avery Johnson&#039;s agent said he has yet to hear from Stefanski.

Chris Ford this afternoon on his interest in the job: &quot;Once a coach, always a coach.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avery Johnson&#8217;s agent said he has yet to hear from Stefanski.</p>
<p>Chris Ford this afternoon on his interest in the job: &#8220;Once a coach, always a coach.&#8221;</p>
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