Comments on: Sixers vs. Celtics: Let’s See What We Are Made Of http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:41:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22786 tk76 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:28:40 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22786 I think a brickyard might be more well suited then an armory. I think a brickyard might be more well suited then an armory.

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22782 jjg Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:30:39 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22782 The Greek,  I think that's a fair and reasonable offer to Sammie.  You've obviously done your homework.  Nice job. Another city?  I hear the Teaneck, NJ Armory is freshly painted and available. Would you support the migrated Sixers if it came to be? The Greek,  I think that’s a fair and reasonable offer to Sammie.  You’ve obviously done your homework.  Nice job.

Another city?  I hear the Teaneck, NJ Armory is freshly painted and available. Would you support the migrated Sixers if it came to be?

]]> By: The Greek http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22770 The Greek Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:07:20 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22770 Negotiations should go like they did with Michael Corleone in the Godfather 2.  "I offer you nothing" If we can't find someone to replace this clown in 2 years then lets just change the name of the team to the Clippers.    Maybe it's time and I hate to say this, that the team moves to another city.  If a half empty stadium and a less then enthusiastic fan base is financially crippling the team then maybe it's time to search for greener pastures.  If re-signing Sammy D in 2 years is our plan then I pray that this team moves somewhere above Siberia. One more thing, If Jrue Holliday is going to be better then Ty Lawson then he will have to be pretty f'n great.   Negotiations should go like they did with Michael Corleone in the Godfather 2.  “I offer you nothing”
If we can’t find someone to replace this clown in 2 years then lets just change the name of the team to the Clippers.    Maybe it’s time and I hate to say this, that the team moves to another city.  If a half empty stadium and a less then enthusiastic fan base is financially crippling the team then maybe it’s time to search for greener pastures.  If re-signing Sammy D in 2 years is our plan then I pray that this team moves somewhere above Siberia.
One more thing, If Jrue Holliday is going to be better then Ty Lawson then he will have to be pretty f’n great.
 

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22727 tk76 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:12:00 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22727 I've been hoping they could draft a low upside defensive center to replace Sammy.  They tried  to get D'Andre Jordan 2 years ago in the 2nd round- a guy like that.  I guess re-signing Sam would be fine if it was at a reasonable number.   As for ES, agree he seems to be smart and a good guy (but I felt the same way about BK.)  I'm certainly pulling for him to succeed.  I'd love to see the Sixers relevant in this city.  I am glad he did not mortgage the future last summer by dealing away a young player for another older "name" player like VC or Redd.  That was my biggest worry.  I guess at least they do have a bunch of tradeable young players if the right move becomes available.  Just don't see how any 1 move could make them anywhere near an elite team.   I'll stop being such a pessimist for a minutes and try to focus more on how the young core is developing. I’ve been hoping they could draft a low upside defensive center to replace Sammy.  They tried  to get D’Andre Jordan 2 years ago in the 2nd round- a guy like that.  I guess re-signing Sam would be fine if it was at a reasonable number.
 
As for ES, agree he seems to be smart and a good guy (but I felt the same way about BK.)  I’m certainly pulling for him to succeed.  I’d love to see the Sixers relevant in this city.  I am glad he did not mortgage the future last summer by dealing away a young player for another older “name” player like VC or Redd.  That was my biggest worry.  I guess at least they do have a bunch of tradeable young players if the right move becomes available.  Just don’t see how any 1 move could make them anywhere near an elite team.
 
I’ll stop being such a pessimist for a minutes and try to focus more on how the young core is developing.

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22719 jkay Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:30:06 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22719 i might be the only one saying this but i do hope they can re-sign Sammy, for a reasonable amount of course. i think finding a defensive center in the draft/FA will be easier than expected but in the meantime I'd hate to lose our intimidating defensive presence. its something that not a lot of teams have. i might be the only one saying this but i do hope they can re-sign Sammy, for a reasonable amount of course. i think finding a defensive center in the draft/FA will be easier than expected but in the meantime I’d hate to lose our intimidating defensive presence. its something that not a lot of teams have.

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22718 jkay Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:25:17 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22718 tk76: they are also trying to market the team as a contender. they cant admit Brand is a bust bcos it would kill the expectations for the team. they hope that if they can sell these high expectations and <strong>somehow</strong> this team starts to win, Iguodala becomes a super star, the young ones start playing with common sense and urgency etc. and everything works out. its tough cos they know they have to fill  seats. its a dilemma. no right way. cant undersell the team. not at this point. Ed <strong>cannot</strong> pull any moves at all bcos of our salary cap situation. <strong>but</strong> he <strong>can</strong> still make more mistakes when guys like Thad and Speights need to be re-signed. evaluation of talent....tricky one. we/he needs to get lucky. period. shame, i like him too. very insightful guy.   tk76: they are also trying to market the team as a contender. they cant admit Brand is a bust bcos it would kill the expectations for the team. they hope that if they can sell these high expectations and somehow this team starts to win, Iguodala becomes a super star, the young ones start playing with common sense and urgency etc. and everything works out. its tough cos they know they have to fill  seats. its a dilemma. no right way. cant undersell the team. not at this point. Ed cannot pull any moves at all bcos of our salary cap situation. but he can still make more mistakes when guys like Thad and Speights need to be re-signed. evaluation of talent….tricky one.
we/he needs to get lucky. period. shame, i like him too. very insightful guy.
 

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22713 tk76 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:38:00 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22713 JKay, I agree with you that looking for blame is not productive.  I'm not even sure it was the wrong move at the time.  But I do think it will eventually get ES fired (rightly or unfairly.)  But only after the team treads water fore a few years and makes no real moves due to financial constraints.   This is what really worries me as a fan.  I want to see the team as going somewhere- either building with the young core or taking another step back to rebuild.  Just don't tread water like the final BK years where we knew the teams future would not start until he was finally gone.   I worry Comcast will leave ES in place for a few years, but financially neuter him because of the Brand financial ramifications.  Then they will give him the axe when the team fails to progress. Basically treading water for 2-3 years... and then another attempt at a rebuild after ES and EJ are canned.  Which is a shame given the team has young talent right now.   Hopefully I'm wrong, and ES will pull of some shocking moves that can shake things up and head the team in a definite direction.  As a fan I want to know this season counts for something.  Even if they don't win much I want it part of some bigger plan towards contention.  Not with a management that are dead men walking. JKay, I agree with you that looking for blame is not productive.  I’m not even sure it was the wrong move at the time.  But I do think it will eventually get ES fired (rightly or unfairly.)  But only after the team treads water fore a few years and makes no real moves due to financial constraints.
 
This is what really worries me as a fan.  I want to see the team as going somewhere- either building with the young core or taking another step back to rebuild.  Just don’t tread water like the final BK years where we knew the teams future would not start until he was finally gone.
 
I worry Comcast will leave ES in place for a few years, but financially neuter him because of the Brand financial ramifications.  Then they will give him the axe when the team fails to progress. Basically treading water for 2-3 years… and then another attempt at a rebuild after ES and EJ are canned.  Which is a shame given the team has young talent right now.
 
Hopefully I’m wrong, and ES will pull of some shocking moves that can shake things up and head the team in a definite direction.  As a fan I want to know this season counts for something.  Even if they don’t win much I want it part of some bigger plan towards contention.  Not with a management that are dead men walking.

]]> By: The Greek http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22710 The Greek Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:15:37 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22710 Agreed as well on Speights being a center dave, but you forgot to mention that the organization will re-sign Sammy for 7 years and 76 million when his contract is up! Agreed as well on Speights being a center dave, but you forgot to mention that the organization will re-sign Sammy for 7 years and 76 million when his contract is up!

]]> By: jkay http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22703 jkay Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:36:00 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22703 ok on Elton Brand, its clear already; we gambled on a player who was supposed to make us better, it was not a bad thing, regardless of whether we were ready to contend or not. hindsight, it was the worst mistake of this decade! IT SUCKSSSSSSS! but whats the point in trying to find someone to blame???   DaveT: i'm glad someone at least acknowledges that Speights is a PF and not a C. i'm still waiting on that Young/Iguodala trade, thats another one that will define the 'new direction'.   Chris M: we are 4 games into the season..............Coaches can only do so much, the players have to actually play. look at Mike D'Antoni.       ok on Elton Brand, its clear already; we gambled on a player who was supposed to make us better, it was not a bad thing, regardless of whether we were ready to contend or not. hindsight, it was the worst mistake of this decade! IT SUCKSSSSSSS! but whats the point in trying to find someone to blame???
 
DaveT: i’m glad someone at least acknowledges that Speights is a PF and not a C. i’m still waiting on that Young/Iguodala trade, thats another one that will define the ‘new direction’.
 
Chris M: we are 4 games into the season…………..Coaches can only do so much, the players have to actually play. look at Mike D’Antoni.
 
 
 

]]> By: Dave T http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-celtics-lets-see-what-we-are-made-of/#comment-22681 Dave T Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:48:23 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=7842#comment-22681 <strong> <strong> <strong></strong> <strong> <strong>Elton Brand </strong>is really embarrassing so far this season.  And I'm not very amused that thus far it's looking like we just got away from giving $18-20 million dollars to a one legged PF past his prime (Webber, Chris) to giving a slightly undersized PF that seems to have completely lost his mid block/low block post game, lost his ability to make plays out of double teams, and lost the ability to bring the amazing NBA defense/rebounding he was (rightly) lauded for during his Chicago/LA days...$16-17 million a year.   Ouch.   There is also that the ideal SG/SF combo, often which can be interchangeable, NEEDS to have one guy that is light's out from 3 point land.  The <strong>Iggy/Thad</strong> experiment is not working well.   And of course the fact our starting center, <strong>Mr. Dalembert</strong>, STILL AFTER EIGHT !@#$ING YEARS will put up a 10 & 10 with 3 blocks one night, and the next night jack up ill advised shots, bitch about his PT, over-foul, and put up 5 & 5.   And I don't care what <strong>Lou Williams </strong>is doing so far and how efficient he's doing it in...he is not any sort of answer for long term PG.  God I hate stop gap PG's.  This is like Miami playing Mario Chalmers at PG...a very good player that brings nice skills to the table, but you do not want him as a long term starter.  Ditto via Delonte West, Earl Watson, etc.  The versatile/can play 2 guard type of PG belong on the bench and excel as 6th men...but as starters...long term projection not looking good.  And lord only knows what we have with <strong>Jrue Holiday </strong>(he did appear to have a nice box score in the Boston game, didn't get to see it live though).   <strong>We have some serious structural issues with our foundations of this team.</strong> I'm already thinking 3 years into the future:   PG: Jrue Holiday SG/SF:  Either Andre Iguodala or Thad Young; one will be traded PF:  Mareese Speights   ...after that, who knows.  I'm curious if the Sixers, once Sammy D's contract is up, slide Speights into the C spot, or look to find a full time defensive starting C through the draft and keep grooming Speights to be the full time PF once the enigma known as Elton Brand is officially done.  Man I am frustrated.  <strong>I hate rooting for teams that have set, low ceilings. </strong> </strong>   </strong> </strong>


Elton Brand is really embarrassing so far this season.  And I’m not very amused that thus far it’s looking like we just got away from giving $18-20 million dollars to a one legged PF past his prime (Webber, Chris) to giving a slightly undersized PF that seems to have completely lost his mid block/low block post game, lost his ability to make plays out of double teams, and lost the ability to bring the amazing NBA defense/rebounding he was (rightly) lauded for during his Chicago/LA days…$16-17 million a year.
 
Ouch.
 
There is also that the ideal SG/SF combo, often which can be interchangeable, NEEDS to have one guy that is light’s out from 3 point land.  The Iggy/Thad experiment is not working well.
 
And of course the fact our starting center, Mr. Dalembert, STILL AFTER EIGHT !@#$ING YEARS will put up a 10 & 10 with 3 blocks one night, and the next night jack up ill advised shots, bitch about his PT, over-foul, and put up 5 & 5.
 
And I don’t care what Lou Williams is doing so far and how efficient he’s doing it in…he is not any sort of answer for long term PG.  God I hate stop gap PG’s.  This is like Miami playing Mario Chalmers at PG…a very good player that brings nice skills to the table, but you do not want him as a long term starter.  Ditto via Delonte West, Earl Watson, etc.  The versatile/can play 2 guard type of PG belong on the bench and excel as 6th men…but as starters…long term projection not looking good.  And lord only knows what we have with Jrue Holiday (he did appear to have a nice box score in the Boston game, didn’t get to see it live though).
 
We have some serious structural issues with our foundations of this team. I’m already thinking 3 years into the future:
 
PG: Jrue Holiday
SG/SF:  Either Andre Iguodala or Thad Young; one will be traded
PF:  Mareese Speights
 
…after that, who knows.  I’m curious if the Sixers, once Sammy D’s contract is up, slide Speights into the C spot, or look to find a full time defensive starting C through the draft and keep grooming Speights to be the full time PF once the enigma known as Elton Brand is officially done.  Man I am frustrated.  I hate rooting for teams that have set, low ceilings.

 

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