Comments on: Sixers Play the Worst Offensive Quarter of Basketball I Have Ever Seen, Lose to the Nets http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/ Philly sports blog for diehard Sixers & Phillies fans Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:37:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ouch http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-12604 Ouch Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:29:43 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-12604 [...] Game 2 vs. the Nets [...] [...] Game 2 vs. the Nets [...]

]]> By: The Greek http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11585 The Greek Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:24:45 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11585 "Instead, they continue to have Louis Williams, Andre Iguodala and Andre Miller pound the air out of the ball until the clock ticks down to around 12 seconds or less then go to a pick-and-roll which is often ineffective having ball handlers that aren’t real threats to shoot the three" Dannie you hit the nail on the head. this pattern is killing me.   And for a last play why not post up Thad where he only needs to take max one dribble?  Thad Young, the kid who I have coined as having "The Unstopable Hook Shot"  go to him, it's a better percentage play then Iggy chucking up pull up jumpers from 20. “Instead, they continue to have Louis Williams, Andre Iguodala and Andre Miller pound the air out of the ball until the clock ticks down to around 12 seconds or less then go to a pick-and-roll which is often ineffective having ball handlers that aren’t real threats to shoot the three”

Dannie you hit the nail on the head. this pattern is killing me.   And for a last play why not post up Thad where he only needs to take max one dribble?  Thad Young, the kid who I have coined as having “The Unstopable Hook Shot”  go to him, it’s a better percentage play then Iggy chucking up pull up jumpers from 20.

]]> By: Morty http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11584 Morty Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:47:08 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11584 This is the game, in my eyes, to bring back Brand to the starting lineup. It has to happen sometime and I think tonight, when he would not have to face Garnett, is perfect. This is the game, in my eyes, to bring back Brand to the starting lineup. It has to happen sometime and I think tonight, when he would not have to face Garnett, is perfect.

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11583 tk76 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:21:25 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11583 Brand at C:  Bad idea if Thad is the PF....  Intriguing idea down the road if Speights is the other big. Brand at C:  Bad idea if Thad is the PF….  Intriguing idea down the road if Speights is the other big.

]]> By: deepsixersuede http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11582 deepsixersuede Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:55:08 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11582 I  would like to see our original starting 5 get some run during the games, especially in the 4th quarter. It is our best defensive team and now that Iggy is playing well and Thad is mixing things up a couple of 5 min. stretches during a game for this group may be a good idea. I  would like to see our original starting 5 get some run during the games, especially in the 4th quarter. It is our best defensive team and now that Iggy is playing well and Thad is mixing things up a couple of 5 min. stretches during a game for this group may be a good idea.

]]> By: Dave T http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11581 Dave T Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:05:08 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11581 <strong>Brand at Center: </strong>Hate this idea.   We would be so undersized it's not even funny.  It could certainly work in <em>some </em>situations, but I'd far rather see a spike in Ratliff's minutes when Dalembert's head screws off, rather then sliding Brand over to the 5 spot.  He's already struggling to find his role on this team...why would sliding him over to a spot he's not used to playing help ease his transition? <strong>When Dalembert gets minutes and has any semblance of coach's confidence behind him, he plays effectively as the starting center.</strong> He is 6'11, athletic, can run the floor, block shots, rebound (when he chooses to box out), and change shots when people drive.  He allows athletic wing players to gamble more, etc etc, we've all rehashed this before. Dalembert is by no means perfect, can make sloppy, dumb mistakes, and don't even get me started on him trying to assert himself on offense.  But that said, IMO his strengths have always outweighed his weaknesses...even if his game runs spotty and streaky.  Some guys have fragile egos, and are not mentally strong.  Dalembert is one of them...he seems to need reassurance and back patting, at least as far as minutes per game are concerned. But I'd rather have him playing 28-32 mpg then anything else, with Ratliff giving 10-13 mpg as his bench guy, with Speights getting the remaining time leftover at C and backing up Brand.  This is our strongest possible lineup, and I would hope that Sammy has reminded people of his worth to the team with his effective play of late.  His whole "I want to play every game regardless of pain" mentality is also refreshing...even if this sometimes leads to him running around like a chicken with his head cut off because of <em>too </em>much energy.  <strong>A frustrating player, but given our roster, one we need that has things to offer on the defensive end.</strong> Brand at Center: Hate this idea.   We would be so undersized it’s not even funny.  It could certainly work in some situations, but I’d far rather see a spike in Ratliff’s minutes when Dalembert’s head screws off, rather then sliding Brand over to the 5 spot.  He’s already struggling to find his role on this team…why would sliding him over to a spot he’s not used to playing help ease his transition?

When Dalembert gets minutes and has any semblance of coach’s confidence behind him, he plays effectively as the starting center. He is 6′11, athletic, can run the floor, block shots, rebound (when he chooses to box out), and change shots when people drive.  He allows athletic wing players to gamble more, etc etc, we’ve all rehashed this before.

Dalembert is by no means perfect, can make sloppy, dumb mistakes, and don’t even get me started on him trying to assert himself on offense.  But that said, IMO his strengths have always outweighed his weaknesses…even if his game runs spotty and streaky.  Some guys have fragile egos, and are not mentally strong.  Dalembert is one of them…he seems to need reassurance and back patting, at least as far as minutes per game are concerned.

But I’d rather have him playing 28-32 mpg then anything else, with Ratliff giving 10-13 mpg as his bench guy, with Speights getting the remaining time leftover at C and backing up Brand.  This is our strongest possible lineup, and I would hope that Sammy has reminded people of his worth to the team with his effective play of late. 

His whole “I want to play every game regardless of pain” mentality is also refreshing…even if this sometimes leads to him running around like a chicken with his head cut off because of too much energy.  A frustrating player, but given our roster, one we need that has things to offer on the defensive end.

]]> By: Ryan F http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11580 Ryan F Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:25:02 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11580 I am not fooling myself into thinking they will win tomorrow. I don't think it is impossible, but if they can't play a consistent offensive game on most opponents, I have little faith they'll scorch Boston.  KG or not, he does play a huge role in what they do, but they are so successful because the whole team plays so well together.  I'm with Tom, if I had to put my last dollar on the game, there is no way I'd lay it on the home team.  The crowd will probably be large and rowdy, but I am sure a third of them will be shouting for the green. We'll see how it goes tomorrow, if they do find a way to pull it off, I'll probably spill my beer. <strong>Brand at Center</strong> - I don't know.  I was calling for it a week ago, but he has been just like the rest of the team - inconsistent, and Sam has been slowly digging himself out of an mid season hole.  If only there was a way we could start 6 players. I am not fooling myself into thinking they will win tomorrow. I don’t think it is impossible, but if they can’t play a consistent offensive game on most opponents, I have little faith they’ll scorch Boston.  KG or not, he does play a huge role in what they do, but they are so successful because the whole team plays so well together.  I’m with Tom, if I had to put my last dollar on the game, there is no way I’d lay it on the home team.  The crowd will probably be large and rowdy, but I am sure a third of them will be shouting for the green.

We’ll see how it goes tomorrow, if they do find a way to pull it off, I’ll probably spill my beer.

Brand at Center – I don’t know.  I was calling for it a week ago, but he has been just like the rest of the team – inconsistent, and Sam has been slowly digging himself out of an mid season hole.  If only there was a way we could start 6 players.

]]> By: Rob http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11579 Rob Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:23:56 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11579 Not to mention this is the game before they face the Lakers in a big matchup on TNT Thursday.  Some complacency might be there and that is why KG is on hold for Tuesday. Not to mention this is the game before they face the Lakers in a big matchup on TNT Thursday.  Some complacency might be there and that is why KG is on hold for Tuesday.

]]> By: tk76 http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11578 tk76 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:37:16 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11578 I posted this at depressed fan... The 4th was terrible, but these things happen- even to really good teams. For example, last March the Celtics were up 80-69 with 8 min left, at home against the Sixers.  They gave up a 19-0 run, missing 11 straight points over 7+ minutes and losing the game. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=280324002 There were no lasting after effects from their 4th quarter collapse at home to a lesser team.  The Celtics went on to win 12 of their remaining 13 games to close out the season. Lets see how the Sixers respond.  It should say a lot about them. I posted this at depressed fan…

The 4th was terrible, but these things happen- even to really good teams.

For example, last March the Celtics were up 80-69 with 8 min left, at home against the Sixers.  They gave up a 19-0 run, missing 11 straight points over 7+ minutes and losing the game.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=280324002

There were no lasting after effects from their 4th quarter collapse at home to a lesser team.  The Celtics went on to win 12 of their remaining 13 games to close out the season.

Lets see how the Sixers respond.  It should say a lot about them.

]]> By: jjg http://www.reclinergm.com/sixers-vs-nets-elton-brand-the-starting-center/#comment-11577 jjg Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:31:01 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=4190#comment-11577 <strong>guest </strong> At critical end game, Williams is still a babe-in-the-woods; Iggy is yet erratic with his jumper and decision-making; Miller is limited by lack of range; Brand is still searching to find himself within this team, within his repaired leg.  Young, posted up on block - an option.  Your Marshall insertion, not a bad idea; a nice 6'10 shooter can hurt an opponent quickly.  Rob's been calling for that for awhile.  The often-used isolation from up top is an easy recipe for defensive vision, ready help, forced shots and non-success - - unless you have a premier offensive player like Kobe, Lebron, Paul or Wade.  If defenders collapse and help, shooters on the perimeter are the answer (provided ball is delivered); if defenders stay home, the isolater has to be able to finish the job.  Who is that player on the Sixers?  He's gotta be located, and he's gotta be relied on.  And maybe he's gotta be acquired.         guest  At critical end game, Williams is still a babe-in-the-woods; Iggy is yet erratic with his jumper and decision-making; Miller is limited by lack of range; Brand is still searching to find himself within this team, within his repaired leg.  Young, posted up on block – an option.  Your Marshall insertion, not a bad idea; a nice 6′10 shooter can hurt an opponent quickly.  Rob’s been calling for that for awhile. 

The often-used isolation from up top is an easy recipe for defensive vision, ready help, forced shots and non-success - – unless you have a premier offensive player like Kobe, Lebron, Paul or Wade.  If defenders collapse and help, shooters on the perimeter are the answer (provided ball is delivered); if defenders stay home, the isolater has to be able to finish the job.  Who is that player on the Sixers?  He’s gotta be located, and he’s gotta be relied on.  And maybe he’s gotta be acquired.        

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