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Sixers vs. Warriors: Must Win Game for Eddie Jordan

by Dannie on December 14, 2009

I thought about writing a seemingly clever back-end to the title like: “Eddie Jordan Going for 15 in a Row” since a loss tonight will almost guarantee this team reaches 15 straight by Friday night.

I didn’t because I wanted to be very clear about the importance of this game for Eddie Jordan.

It’s become evident that Eddie Jordan has an extremely long rope in this first season as head coach of the Sixers.  If he was in his second season, I am 99% sure he would have been fired already.  Other than this being his inaugural year, there has been no legitimate reason whatsoever for him to still be coaching this team.

While I do believe the talent on this roster is average overall, his coaching performance has been well below average.

Tonight the Sixers face a Warriors team that is only 7-16 and 2-8 in their last 10.  This is the last chance to break the losing streak before we sink to even lower depths, getting ever so close to the franchise record for consecutive losses in a season (20).

I am not confident. Why should I be?

This team, the whole team, players and coaches are not very good.  To be clear while I think Eddie Jordan has been beyond horrible, the players have been following him almost in lock step.

Everyone is to blame. That is always my stance.

I don’t think too much blame is being put on Jordan.  I think it’s just right now that the media started doing their job.  But I do think not enough blame is being placed on the players.

The Sixers haven’t been getting blown out lately, and they’ve been close enough in games or leading early to pull one out during this stretch.  They have not.

Where is their sense of pride?  When will someone step up and say “I will not let us lose another F’ing game!”

At the end of the game when a game comes down to one stop, one rebound or one positive offensive play, the players have fallen short just as much as the coaching staff.

The problem for Eddie Jordan – he can be fired on the spot, whereas that scenario isn’t happening to the players.

He must win this game tonight.  If he doesn’t and is still the coach, he will lose on Wednesday to Cleveland and on Friday to Boston.

I’d have to think a 15-game losing streak is the breaking point.  But, I wouldn’t be surprised if the immovable plan is to have Jordan coach out this season and look to start fresh next year with a healthy roster and a year of his moronic style of play offensively and defensively under the players’ belts.

About the Tonight’s Game

This game could be exciting and disastrous for the Sixers.  The Warriors like the Sixers in that they don’t play any defense nor do they rebound much at all.

Both teams want to force turnovers, create points off the turnovers and get out in transition.

The problem: Golden State does all three of those things better than the Sixers.  In fact they are the best in the league at those three things.

On top of that, Golden State shoots better than the Sixers and have a number of regulars who can kill you from three.

Once again the Sixers’ perimeter defense will be tested.  The Warriors are a guard-oriented team and look to create shots off penetration, kick outs and ball rotation in the half court.  All things the Sixers have shown they are incapable of defending well.

It could be a really ugly loss while being a really exciting up-and-down contest with big runs.  I am thinking something like 115 – 100 type of game.

Now that could go either way.  The Warriors are not going to defend us.  But the Sixers need to make shots because there is no reason to believe the perimeter defense is all of a sudden going to start working.

The book is pretty easy on the Sixers: pack in the lane and force them to make open and contested perimeter shots and don’t send them to the line much.

Eddie Jordan will have an even more banged up roster…

  • Iverson hurting after having 55 CCs of fluid drained from his left knee and a sore shin.  They threw him into the fire playing heavy minutes much to fast.
  • Willie Green also strained his MCL but looks more probable than Iverson for tonight’s game.

This is a battle of two similar teams.  It’s just a matter of which one shoots better tonight.  Because I see no reason to believe either team will come out looking to lock up on defense.  Certainly not GS.  And once they start running and gunning, the Sixers will just follow and try to keep pace.

The likelihood of them actually keeping up is slim.

I will be here chatting during the game.

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December 14, 2009

{ 29 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:09 pm

Starting line-up: Jrue, Iverson, Iguodala, Thad, Dalembert.

Bitter sweet.  Brand should be starting.  He’s clearly played well enough but this is all about Jordan taking any opportunity to match up with a team’s smaller line-up.

2 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:11 pm

Wouldn’t be surprised to see one of my favorite young players Anthony Morrow to light us up from the perimeter.  He is one of the best shooters you will see in the NBA and he is only 24.

3 Ryan F 12.14.09 at 7:12 pm

Jrue in Brand out tonight, it just screams bitch to me.   EJ is constantly trying to match up with other teams instead of forcing the other team to match us.  Doesn’t he realize that barring a tremendous amount of luck this team cant beat GS at his own game?
 
He’s pretty much telling Brand to piss off because he doesn’t think he can punish Radmonovic enough to be worthy of starting.

4 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:13 pm

I like Iverson off the ball doing less ball handling and more spot up shooting and catch and shooting.

5 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:14 pm

Old AI on that drive.

6 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:17 pm

Moves like this by Jordan screams Elton Brand must be traded.  No way Brand will be content being jerked around like that.  And Stefanski can’t have his salary wasting away on Eddie Jordan’s bench.  So far to me it looks like Jordan is staying so Brand is the odd man out.

7 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:18 pm

Sammy is dominating the paint right now.  Which is an easy task against the Warriors but his energy level is high.

Allen Iverson helps keep Sammy happy.  Sam loves A.I. it’s shown in his play the last 3 games.

8 Ryan F 12.14.09 at 7:21 pm

Its a shame.  He has played well enough lately to start on just about every team on every night.
 
I do like the back court of Iverson and Holiday, but Thad should be the one getting checked if anyone

9 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:24 pm

What the hell is going on with Mikki Moore nailing jumpers right now?

10 Garvey 12.14.09 at 7:27 pm

EB should man-handle Rad Vlad
 
Iggy need to stop forcing up garbage…WTF was that Iggy? blown lay-up nuthin but backboard?

11 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:38 pm

Good first quarter.  Did exactly what they were suppose to – outscore the warriors who can’t defend anyone.

12 Dannie 12.14.09 at 7:41 pm

Iverson looks good.  Not sure what happened to Iguodala though he left the court.

13 Garvey 12.14.09 at 7:56 pm

looked like iggy was ahead of watson there BS clear path

14 Garvey 12.14.09 at 8:03 pm

Funny. Thats gotta be the 4th blown lay-up from Iggy, but I do like how he is attacking

15 Garvey 12.14.09 at 8:10 pm

Thad is KILLING the Warriors

16 guest 12.14.09 at 8:31 pm

Odds of blowing this first half lead?
We are killing it on the glass and already have 12 offensive rebounds.  In the chance that we go cold from the field, I think our O-Rebs can carry us through.  We have to keep Monta Ellis from getting hot in the 2nd half though, he was 3-12 in the 1st half.  Providing the Sixers’ history, the game is FAR from over… so I’ll give it a 45% chance we blow this lead.

17 Dannie 12.14.09 at 8:38 pm

We should win this game. The Warriors could come back but they won’t get enough stops to make it all the way back.

18 Ryan F 12.14.09 at 8:39 pm

figures thad would just go off the night i said he should be off of the bench

19 Garvey 12.14.09 at 8:46 pm

My god the Warriors are Damaging the rims out there

20 Dannie 12.14.09 at 8:56 pm

Looks like Eddie Jordan will get to start a new streak on Wednesday

21 Dannie 12.14.09 at 9:15 pm

Real solid game for Jrue.  Hopefully he can get some more minutes going forward.

22 Ed R. 12.14.09 at 9:17 pm

Just goes to show how new to winning Jordan is…still has his starters in up 22 in the 4th with 4 minutes left. Stay classy Eddie.

23 tk76 12.14.09 at 11:06 pm

Really enjoyed seeing Jrue match up against Ellis.  Agree, minutes for him are key.  Tom Moore reports Jrue might also start next game.
 
Don’t understand benching Brand at this point- but at least they are not starting Green.

24 Adam 12.14.09 at 11:59 pm

Great to see iverson hitting jumpshots and not committing turnovers.  Thad pulling boards and playing with fire, same with sammy. great game and finally a win.  if we could beat either the cavs or the celts that could really give us a confidence boost.

25 deepsixersuede 12.15.09 at 12:05 am

If Thad can keep up his play of the last couple of weeks maybe he and Sam CAN man the paint allowing Elton to pair with Marreese off the bench. Dannie, on a night when Morrow, Ellis and Curry were on the court, it looked like we had the best young guard out there, impressive!!!

26 Dave T 12.15.09 at 11:48 am

Why.  Is.  Elton.  Brand.  Still.  Not.  Starting every game.  I don’t care about matchup strength with one game out of an 82 game schedule with a crappy, undisciplined run n gun team like the Warriors.  I am in just utter disbelief that EJ is taking this conservative hard line stance with Brand and making him earn every minute of playing time.  It’s like Brand is being punished for working hard.  It’s absolutely bizarre.  Maybe EJ has been hanging out with Donnie Nelson and has adopted his completely wacky method of dealing with player’s psyche’s and doling out minutes?  I’m not able to let this go.

27 Zack 12.15.09 at 12:12 pm

Suede, I’m gonna keep bothering you about this :)
 
2008 Kyle Weaver, 2009 Marcus Thornton, 2010 __________
 
Random thoughts on the game:

  • Tim Roye, the Warriors’ radio guy, said at the beginning of the game that in his 15 years of doing Warriors play-by-play, that was the smallest crowd he’d ever seen at a Sixers game.
  • Roye also mentioned how tired the Warriors seemed, that it was most likely because the game was the last on a road trip for them, and that their sloppy play was uncharacteristic of them.
  • Iverson is playing like a prototypical “savvy vet”.  It looks like there’s some sort of respect there from Iguodala, because it looks like Iguodala has stopped trying to put the team on his back every game, and he seems somewhat relieved that in Iverson there’s someone who can help him in trying to win games and understands the game as well as he does.  Although he’s still learning to recognize and accept his skill limitations, one thing I’ll never question about Andre is that he really cares about winning.
  • Hard for me to say – Jason Smith has become a garbage-time player, like “Thunder” Bob Thornton.  Maybe we can still get a first-round pick from a contender for him; Portland would be ideal but they’re all about “assets”, and Smith really isn’t one right now, but it doesn’t hurt to try, Mr. Stefanski!
  • Their color guy was really impressed with Thaddeus, and that Thad was what Anthony Randolph needed to be, that Randolph needed to do all the things that Thad was doing in that game.  But I think they’re so different, and that Randolph should aim to be an athletic, freak-of-nature awesome defensive player like Dwight Howard or Kirilenko. 
  • Thad has this incredible touch and deceivingly quick release on his shots, talents that I just don’t see Randolph eventually learning.  Offensively, I think the next step for Randolph would be to try to get better at attacking the basket, a la LeBron.  I don’t even know what to call that shot where he drove on Sam, put the ball up with his right (maybe left) hand, and flipped it over Sam’s one-handed attempt to block it; I mean, if Sam physically couldn’t block that, who in the NBA can?
  • I thought Stephen Curry would have a greater impact than he’s shown so far this season.  At the very least, I thought he’d be an Eddie House-type of instant-offense shooter.  I don’t know how much upside he has.  The Warriors TV guys mentioned Steve Nash, but I think that would be in shooting ability only.  I’m starting to feel glad the Sixers didn’t take him.
  • Is Jrue Holiday unselfish to a fault?  I remember a WIP guy saying one day that Lou Williams has too much “high school” in his game – does Holiday have too much “college” in his game?  I think he’s good at seeing scoring opportunities for his teammates, and he’s really good at getting to where he needs to go in order to make a good pass to a teammate; Iguodala could learn a lot from him.  He’s said before that he thinks he can be like Deron Williams but I think his upside is more Jason Kidd.
28 Zack 12.15.09 at 12:13 pm

Dannie, can you bullet the “Random thoughts” section for me?  I can’t seem to get it to work.

29 Dannie 12.15.09 at 1:22 pm

Zack - Two things about your random thoughts mainly about Curry.

I think he is in the wrong situation/not being utilized correctly right now.

With Monta on the floor and the type of open one-on-one offense the Warriors run Curry is relegated to being just a spot up jump shooter.  He SHOULD make a high percentage of his shots in that role but right now he is a bit streaky for whatever reason.

In college he thrived having the ball in his hands both scoring and making plays for teammates.  I think his ceiling can’t be confirmed until we see him a lot more in that role.  Can he be a scoring point guard?  Or is and undersized spot up shooter a la Eddie House?

I think his ball-handling, vision and passing ability far exceeds that of Eddie House so I wouldn’t lump him in with those types of guys.  But until he gets in a pro style offense where he can run pick and rolls and dictate the action it will be hard to judge him.

On top of that Anthony Morrow should be a Sixers and he is flat out wasting away on that team.  Please understand this kid is 24 years old and might just be the best shooter in the NBA.  He isn’t streaky, he is dead eye from all over the floor.  He was the NBA top three point shooters last year and is in the top 10 this year and I think he will level out around the top 5 or 3 once the early season variance clears out.

But forget that, he is a 48%+ shooter overall from the field.  His shot selection is is very good for a young player and when he gets attempts and plays run for him well he does THIS.

Undrafted diamond in the rough that isn’t being shined at all right now.

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