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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

brought back some memories of those teams. Also in regards to Carlton Loewer (former 1st round pick) I remember being at his first start (CG, 5h, 2er, 8k&#039;s vs the Sammy Sosa cubs) and thinking he was the next big thing....yikes...wonder what he is doing these days</description>
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<p>brought back some memories of those teams. Also in regards to Carlton Loewer (former 1st round pick) I remember being at his first start (CG, 5h, 2er, 8k&#8217;s vs the Sammy Sosa cubs) and thinking he was the next big thing&#8230;.yikes&#8230;wonder what he is doing these days</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Pete, that &#039;98 team really looked like it was going to be the start of a good run for us.....until you got a look at the pitching.  Once I listed the starters in my previous post, I had had enough.  I couldn&#039;t bring myself to continue on with the bullpen.

Talking about this gets me remembering how good Schilling was than and how much fun it was to watch his starts.  I remember an early season game in &#039;98 when Schilling went up against McGwire and struck him out 3 times.  I remember the crowd going nuts and Schilling just reaching back and throwing one fastball after another right by McGwire.  I remember Schilling flat out challenging McGwire to hit his fastball and going up the ladder on him until McGwire would strike out on a pitch up around his neck.  I also remember Schilling matching up against Greg Maddux in two consecutive starts (once in ATL and once in PHIL), and getting the better of him both times, that year.  Schilling always seemed to thrive on those types of personal challenges and he usually stepped up and delivered.  Then we had to wait until the 4 other stiffs made their starts in between before we could see him do it again.

Too bad the Phils pissed away the opportunity they had with that group.  Instead of making an honest effort to assemble a pitching staff, all we got were excuses like the  &quot;bad lease&quot; they had at the Vet which only served to damage the Schilling and Rolen relationships beyond repair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Pete, that &#8217;98 team really looked like it was going to be the start of a good run for us&#8230;..until you got a look at the pitching.  Once I listed the starters in my previous post, I had had enough.  I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to continue on with the bullpen.</p>
<p>Talking about this gets me remembering how good Schilling was than and how much fun it was to watch his starts.  I remember an early season game in &#8217;98 when Schilling went up against McGwire and struck him out 3 times.  I remember the crowd going nuts and Schilling just reaching back and throwing one fastball after another right by McGwire.  I remember Schilling flat out challenging McGwire to hit his fastball and going up the ladder on him until McGwire would strike out on a pitch up around his neck.  I also remember Schilling matching up against Greg Maddux in two consecutive starts (once in ATL and once in PHIL), and getting the better of him both times, that year.  Schilling always seemed to thrive on those types of personal challenges and he usually stepped up and delivered.  Then we had to wait until the 4 other stiffs made their starts in between before we could see him do it again.</p>
<p>Too bad the Phils pissed away the opportunity they had with that group.  Instead of making an honest effort to assemble a pitching staff, all we got were excuses like the  &#8220;bad lease&#8221; they had at the Vet which only served to damage the Schilling and Rolen relationships beyond repair.</p>
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		<title>By: jjg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pete&lt;/strong&gt;  Schilling, Rolen, Abreu:  Hall Of Fame talents.  Had each individal career panned out just a bit differently, HOF inductees.  At this date, Schilling may get in, Abreu has a shot with continued production, Rolen won&#039;t due to injuries&#039; toll.  As a fan, I&#039;m happy they passed through.  

Regarding Wade/Chacon:  still makes me laugh too.  Chalk it up to a clash of cultures:  Cerebral vs. Visceral.  Or Dumb vs. Dumber.     </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pete</strong>  Schilling, Rolen, Abreu:  Hall Of Fame talents.  Had each individal career panned out just a bit differently, HOF inductees.  At this date, Schilling may get in, Abreu has a shot with continued production, Rolen won&#8217;t due to injuries&#8217; toll.  As a fan, I&#8217;m happy they passed through.  </p>
<p>Regarding Wade/Chacon:  still makes me laugh too.  Chalk it up to a clash of cultures:  Cerebral vs. Visceral.  Or Dumb vs. Dumber.     </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;some tidbits from Jayson Stark, gotta like Howard working hard on his D. If he can get that going and hit for a better average, I’m much more OK with overpaying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;• Ryan’s Hope Dept.: Has there ever been a more riveting arbitration case than Ryan Howard’s?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Correct answer: Heck, no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Here’s why:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;• No position player in the history of arbitration has ever come out of this process with $18 million — which is the payday Howard seeks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;• Then again, no position player has ever gone through arbitration and received $14 million — the amount the Phillies offered — either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;• So how large is an $18 million salary request by a player who is in only his second year of arbitration eligibility? It’s nearly double the previous record for a hitter in his second year. The old record was $10.5 million, by Derek Jeter in 2000. (Jeter eventually settled at the midpoint — of $10 million.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;• And remember this: Howard has just three-plus years of big league service time. He’s looking for a salary well beyond what any player with five years of service time has gotten. Jeter filed at $18.5 million as a five-plus-year player but wound up earning $11 million in the first year of his 10-year, $189 million contract&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;So what does all this mean? It means this is just about an impossible case to handicap, because there are no comparable players for the arbitrators to use for reference.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Ultimately, then, this case will come down to the size of the raise this man is seeking — and whether Howard and his agent, Casey Close, can justify it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The Phillies are getting good reviews for offering a $4 million raise to a player who was already in historic salary territory. And remember, their $14 million offer would be a record for any arb-eligible hitter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;On the other hand, the Phillies did file slightly under the $14.25 million figure the Yankees submitted in Jeter’s final arbitration year (before settling). And Howard has been linked in the past with Miguel Cabrera, who will make $15 million this year (in what would have been his third arbitration season).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;So although the Phillies’ case looks more winnable than it did last year, one thing we’ve come to learn about arbitration is: You never know. Ever.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;• More Ryan-osity: Meanwhile, word out of Missouri is that Howard has devoted a sizable percentage of his winter workouts to addressing his defensive issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;One friend who spoke with him says Howard knows he needs to be a “more complete player.” So his three areas of concentration this offseason have been (1) defense, (2) footwork around first base and (3) conditioning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Once upon a time, when he was in the International League, Howard was voted by the managers — in a Baseball America poll — as the league’s best defensive first baseman. Last season, though, he was one error away from becoming the second first baseman in the past 25 years to commit 20 errors in a season. (The other: Pittsburgh’s Kevin Young, in 1999.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;So if Howard wants to finish his career as a first baseman, he clearly recognizes it’s time to fix his defensive regression.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">some tidbits from Jayson Stark, gotta like Howard working hard on his D. If he can get that going and hit for a better average, I’m much more OK with overpaying.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">• Ryan’s Hope Dept.: Has there ever been a more riveting arbitration case than Ryan Howard’s?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Correct answer: Heck, no.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s why:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">• No position player in the history of arbitration has ever come out of this process with $18 million — which is the payday Howard seeks.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">• Then again, no position player has ever gone through arbitration and received $14 million — the amount the Phillies offered — either.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">• So how large is an $18 million salary request by a player who is in only his second year of arbitration eligibility? It’s nearly double the previous record for a hitter in his second year. The old record was $10.5 million, by Derek Jeter in 2000. (Jeter eventually settled at the midpoint — of $10 million.)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">• And remember this: Howard has just three-plus years of big league service time. He’s looking for a salary well beyond what any player with five years of service time has gotten. Jeter filed at $18.5 million as a five-plus-year player but wound up earning $11 million in the first year of his 10-year, $189 million contract</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So what does all this mean? It means this is just about an impossible case to handicap, because there are no comparable players for the arbitrators to use for reference.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ultimately, then, this case will come down to the size of the raise this man is seeking — and whether Howard and his agent, Casey Close, can justify it.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Phillies are getting good reviews for offering a $4 million raise to a player who was already in historic salary territory. And remember, their $14 million offer would be a record for any arb-eligible hitter.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On the other hand, the Phillies did file slightly under the $14.25 million figure the Yankees submitted in Jeter’s final arbitration year (before settling). And Howard has been linked in the past with Miguel Cabrera, who will make $15 million this year (in what would have been his third arbitration season).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So although the Phillies’ case looks more winnable than it did last year, one thing we’ve come to learn about arbitration is: You never know. Ever.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">• More Ryan-osity: Meanwhile, word out of Missouri is that Howard has devoted a sizable percentage of his winter workouts to addressing his defensive issues.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">One friend who spoke with him says Howard knows he needs to be a “more complete player.” So his three areas of concentration this offseason have been (1) defense, (2) footwork around first base and (3) conditioning.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Once upon a time, when he was in the International League, Howard was voted by the managers — in a Baseball America poll — as the league’s best defensive first baseman. Last season, though, he was one error away from becoming the second first baseman in the past 25 years to commit 20 errors in a season. (The other: Pittsburgh’s Kevin Young, in 1999.)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So if Howard wants to finish his career as a first baseman, he clearly recognizes it’s time to fix his defensive regression.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;div&gt;funny you should mention the &#039;98 group. I had always loved the Phillies, but 1998 was the year I became completely obsessed with them and baseball in general. I couldn&#039;t drive yet, but I took the train to about 15 games that year with my friends, got $5 gen admin tickets and went early for BP and autographs. Lieby, Rolen and Abreu looked like a real-deal core. Schilling was a true ace, and those pitchers you mentioned all had promise (or seemed to). Kevin Jordan was our Greg Dobbs (and had Jordan, 23 on the back of his jersey) I loved that team.  But man, the middle of rotation and bullpen were horrible, huh...&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;ed wade playing the &quot;tough guy&quot; role vs. shawn chacon. hilarious. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;OK guys&lt;/span&gt;, first part of my 5-part Phillies preview is the next up, I know people are reading these, but we all know the Phillies will generate a lot more talk....also, I posted this on the Cardinals preview and wanted to pull it over here... I&#039;ll post in right below this in the interest of not having a gigantic post. &lt;/div&gt;
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<div>ed wade playing the &#8220;tough guy&#8221; role vs. shawn chacon. hilarious. </div>
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<div><span style="font-weight: bold;">OK guys</span>, first part of my 5-part Phillies preview is the next up, I know people are reading these, but we all know the Phillies will generate a lot more talk&#8230;.also, I posted this on the Cardinals preview and wanted to pull it over here&#8230; I&#8217;ll post in right below this in the interest of not having a gigantic post. </div>
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		<title>By: jjg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering if Ed Wade and Shawn Chacon ironed out their differences over the club luncheon menu.  Shawn&#039;s been resting his arm since last June.  As Astros are in need of pitching, a magnaminous/practical Wade might extend a tryout offer provided the organization could situate them apart at the annual Spring Training Heimlich Maneuver workshop.  Shawn gives up a hit an inning, and walks 4 for every 5 Ks, but he&#039;s only balked 3 times in over 900 career innings!  And he&#039;ll notch ya 6 or 7 wins if you pencil him in as your #5 starter ... and leave him eat in peace without being hectored about looking in some mirror that&#039;s nowhere in sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering if Ed Wade and Shawn Chacon ironed out their differences over the club luncheon menu.  Shawn&#8217;s been resting his arm since last June.  As Astros are in need of pitching, a magnaminous/practical Wade might extend a tryout offer provided the organization could situate them apart at the annual Spring Training Heimlich Maneuver workshop.  Shawn gives up a hit an inning, and walks 4 for every 5 Ks, but he&#8217;s only balked 3 times in over 900 career innings!  And he&#8217;ll notch ya 6 or 7 wins if you pencil him in as your #5 starter &#8230; and leave him eat in peace without being hectored about looking in some mirror that&#8217;s nowhere in sight.</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey now, don&#039;t go picking on Rico Brogna.  I remember being optimistic back in &#039;98 looking at the young group we had, and Brogna was a part of that.  Glanville had a good season, Lieberthal was emerging, Rolen won ROY in &#039;97 and looked like a cornerstone, and Abreu looked to be a gem (and an absolute steal of a pick up).  Too bad we had no starting pitching beyond Schilling.  I mean when your other starters are Mark Portugal, Tyler Green, Carlton Loewer, Matt Beech, and Mike Grace....Yikes!  When you get excited about the late season pick up and subsequent surge of Paul Byrd, you know you&#039;ve pretty much bottomed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now, don&#8217;t go picking on Rico Brogna.  I remember being optimistic back in &#8217;98 looking at the young group we had, and Brogna was a part of that.  Glanville had a good season, Lieberthal was emerging, Rolen won ROY in &#8217;97 and looked like a cornerstone, and Abreu looked to be a gem (and an absolute steal of a pick up).  Too bad we had no starting pitching beyond Schilling.  I mean when your other starters are Mark Portugal, Tyler Green, Carlton Loewer, Matt Beech, and Mike Grace&#8230;.Yikes!  When you get excited about the late season pick up and subsequent surge of Paul Byrd, you know you&#8217;ve pretty much bottomed out.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as my bud mitch williams said...its great that michael bourn is maybe the fastest player in baseball...&quot;..but you cant steal first base&quot; in reference to his horrible batting average...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as my bud mitch williams said&#8230;its great that michael bourn is maybe the fastest player in baseball&#8230;&#8221;..but you cant steal first base&#8221; in reference to his horrible batting average&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe we could sign person for a RH off the bench. he had a couple crazy games as a hitter. 
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&lt;div&gt;robert person and omar daal....good memories&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;desi relaford and rico brogna anyone?&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<div>robert person and omar daal&#8230;.good memories</div>
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