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Going into last season, I thought that the Phillies’ biggest weakness was the starting rotation. Mid-way through the season, they had done little to prove me wrong. Hamels was great, and Moyer was solid, but Kyle Kendrick was on the verge of complete, and predictable, breakdown and both Myers and Eaton has ERA’s north of 5.50.
But the rotation came together, after Myers came back from the Minors, and Pat Gillick traded for Joe Blanton, it turned out that pitching, not hitting, would lead us to our first title since 1980. After the all-star break, Hamels had a 2.98 ERA, Myers 3.06, Moyer 3.39 and Blanton 4.20. In the playoffs, Phillies starters went 8-3 with a 3.70 ERA and a 1.19 WHIP. Can they repeat the feat in 2009? Here’s what I expect.
Like the infield preview, I’ll be looking at where we are now, what improvements can be made, and what I expect in 2009. Instead of doing a 2009 and beyond for each, I’ll do one at the end.
#1 Starter: Cole Hamels
WHERE WE ARE: Hamels should get his first opening day start this season after being snubbed the last 2 years. If winning the NLCS and WS MVP won’t do it, I’m not sure what will. Hamels has improved his ERA and WHIP in each of his 3 seasons, and at just 25, he’s still got room to improve. Last year, he solidified himself as both a true ace and a big game pitcher with a 3.09 ERA in 227 IP. Since 1972, only Carlton, Denny and Schilling have had that low an ERA in that many IP. Hamels was the story of the playoffs, going 4-0 with 1.80 ERA and a 0.91 WHIP.
2009 IMPROVEMENTS: The one knock on Hamels is that he gives up too many HRs. He gave up 28 last year, 13th most in the majors. This had little to do with Citizens Bank Park, as he gave up only 2 more HR at home, with 1 more start there. If Hamels can get a little better at keeping his fastball out over the plate, he’ll be able to knock that ERA down into the 2.50 range and be a serious Cy Young contender.
WHAT I EXPECT IN 2009: Unfortunately, I expect an injury. Hamels threw more pitches and pitched more innings than any other pitcher in baseball last year. There is a direct correlation between increased pitches and innings and injuries. Many people use 3,400 pitches as a benchmark for a red flag. Last year, Hamels threw over 3,900. Both Myers and Blanton threw over 3,400 as well. I don’t think it will be huge injury, but I would plan on Hamels throwing about 150-170 IP, with a 3.20 ERA. If he stays healthy, it gives me hope that he could be a Tom Glavine / Greg Maddux-type pitcher whose motion allows them to stay healthy year in, year out.
#2 Starter: Brett Myers
WHERE WE ARE: Your guess is as good as mine. Brett Myers went from closer, to #1 starter, to “hey, I forgot how to be a starter,” to the minors, to an out machine at the end of the season, to a world champion. This is his last season under contract with the Phillies, and anywhere from a 3.00-6.00 ERA wouldn’t surprise me. Myers was talked about at length on this blog as someone, no matter how good he looked over how long a time, that we really never had any trust in. Hopefully he shows up ready for the season.
2009 IMPROVEMENTS: Consistency is the most obvious one. Myers can get in his own head and lose focus for several starts at a time. I think that the trip to minors woke him up last year. Everyone matures at a different speed and hopefully the 28-year-old Myers makes that transformation down the stretch. In terms of his actual pitching, he also needs to work on fastball location. He gave up more HR’s than Hamels (but very few after coming back) and gave up more than a hit per inning during the season. His whole game relies on fastball movement and location.
WHAT I EXPECT IN 2009: I have pretty set expectations for all the other pitchers here, but Myers I still don’t trust. At times he looks like the best pitcher on the team, and at others, he looks like the worst pitcher in the whole league. Since it is a contract year for him, and at 28, he could be in line for the biggest pay day of his entire career, I think that he will continue the good pitching he showed down the stretch and potentially put together his first start-to-finish solid year. I’m thinking 200 IP, 3.80 ERA.
#3 Starter: Joe Blanton
WHERE WE ARE: Blanton came over in a mid-season trade that got a lukewarm reception from the fans. Many were hoping for a blockbuster move along the lines of CC Sabathia and Manny Ramirez, but as it turns out, the Phils ended up beating both those players on their way to Tampa Bay. Blanton was solid for the Phillies after his acquisition, going 4-0 with a 4.20 ERA in 70.7 IP. He was 2-0 with a 3.18 ERA in the playoffs. He also gained some local fame by blasting a HR off Andy Sonnanstine in Game 4 of the World Series.
2009 IMPROVEMENTS: Blanton needs to give up less hits. His goal should be to give up less than a hit per inning. He was at his best in the playoffs when he had his slider working, so he has to do whatever he can to make sure that that pitch is where it needs to be before every start.
WHAT I EXPECT IN 2009: I think that what we saw at the end of the regular season is what we will see this year. Blanton is usually solid and can give you a great start every once in a while when everything is clicking. He reminds me a lot of the good version of Jon Lieber. I’m expecting his ERA will be right around where it was down the stretch for the Phils, 4.20.
#4 Starter: Jamie Moyer
WHERE WE ARE: We are in unchartered territory here with Moyer, giving a 2-year deal to a 46-year-old. Moyer appeared done after the 2007 season in which he posted a 5.01 ERA, but he bounced back in a big way last year, leading the team in wins (16) and posting his lowest ERA (3.71) since 2003. Those are certainly fantastic numbers to have in your #4 starter, but how much can you expect from someone who could legitimately be Cole Hamels’ father?
2009 IMPROVEMENTS: I think that Moyer had as good a year as he possibly could last season, and to point out areas of improvement would be nit-picking. He’s not going to develop any pitches or gain any velocity on his fastball. Moyer needs to keep doing whatever he did to drop his ERA 1.30 last season. Hitting his corners, mixing up pitches and keeping the hitters frustrated and guessing.
WHAT I EXPECT IN 2009: Honestly, I’m not very optimistic about Moyer this year. There was virtually no difference in the pitcher that had a 5.01 ERA in 2007 and the one that had a 3.71 ERA in 2008. Same pitches, same velocity, just an inch here, and defensive play there and some luck. I think that Moyer will still go out there every day and give us a chance to win, but I think his end-of-season ERA is going to be in 4.60 range, and there might be some serious doubt about giving him a two-year deal. Hopefully he proves me wrong; he’s been proving everyone wrong for about 8 years now.
#5 Starter: J.A. Happ
WHERE WE ARE: The fight for the 5th starter spot will probably be the biggest Phillies story of Spring Training. Happ, Chan Ho Park, Kyle Kendrick and Carlos Carrasco will fight it out, but I think that Happ will win out, and furthermore, I don’t even think there should be a competition. Happ finished 1 strikeout away from the International League lead with 152, despite spending much of the last half of the year in Philly. In his 4 starts for the Phillies, he was 1-0 with a 2.28 ERA. He showed a good fastball, about 91-92 MPH, and his off-speed pitches can get major league hitters out. He’s 26, has far greater potential than Kendrick, and we need to find out what we have with him.
2009 IMPROVEMENTS: It’s kind of hard to write anything here since we haven’t seen Happ pitch that much. In his 4 starts, he didn’t give up a lot of runs, but he also didn’t manage his pitch count terribly well and wasn’t able to pitch late into games. Too early to make any sweeping judgments on him though.
WHAT I EXPECT IN 2009: I’m really high on Happ, actually. His peripheral stats at AAA were very impressive, allowing only 116 hits and striking out 151 in 135 innings. I think he will win the job, and then go through a typical rookie season, with some ups and downs. Hopefully the Phillies stick with him and see what he’s made of. I’m thinking about 150 IP, 4.50 ERA, but he shows the potential to improve upon that in the future.
Beyond 2009
CONTRACT STATUS:
- Cole Hamels is signed for 2009, 2010 and 2011
- Brett Myers is in a contract year and will be a FA after this season
- Joe Blanton has 1 more year of arbitration, and will be a FA after the 2010 season
- Jamie Moyer is signed for 2009 and 2010
- J.A. Happ is under the Phillies’ control until after the 2014 season
MINOR LEAGUERS
Carlos Carrasco is the biggest name in the Phillies farm system as has been for a couple years. However, he’s only 21 and is probably not ready for the big show just yet. He was so-so in double-A but was fantastic once promoted to AAA, where he had a 1.72 ERA and 46K in 36.2 IP. I think he needs to start the year in the minors and will only come up if several pitchers get hurt or if he pitches so well we can’t keep him down. In 2010, I expect him to be in the rotation and hopefully camp right behind Cole Hamels for a couple years.
- The other major pitching prospect in the system, Kyle Drabek, is still years away but might have a bigger upside than Carrasco. Drabek has an elite arm, with a 94-95 mph fastball and the best curveball in the system. But he has yet to have a full year in the minors, and this year will be huge in terms of finding out what his long term potential is.
- There are several other minor league pitchers to keep an eye on but none that look to make an immediate impact. Jason Knapp might have the best arm in the system but is only 18. Aussie Drew Naylor impressed a lot of people by leading the Phillies entire system in strikeouts with 156. Joe Savery was the team’s 2007 first round pick, but was disappointing in his first full year in the minors. Edgar Garcia, Antonio Bastardo, Julian Sampson, Mike Stutes and Vance Worley are all promising pitchers to keep an eye on 2009.
Overview
I’m never really comfortable with our starting pitching. Hitters are pretty consistent in their production year by year, but pitchers are unpredictable and much more susceptible to injury. However, I do like our rotation more than I did to start last year. We have a deep rotation, and if someone falters or gets injured, Chan Ho Park and Kyle Kendrick can give us some spot starts or we can graduate Carlos Carrasco early. Myers, Blanton and Moyer are going to be extremely important to this team, and if all three perform how they did down the stretch, we could absolutely flirt with 100 wins. As for the future, we need a couple of those pitchers in the third bullet to step it up this year, and I’ll be watching them very closely.











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Nicely done, Pete. Sounds about right to me. Pitching is the name of the game. You simply cannot be a serious contender without solid, dependable starting pitching. That’s why we always worry about it and never feel like we have enough of it.
We’ve talked about Hamels, and his very real risk for injury, before. As you know, I am just as worried as you are. From little bits and pieces I read last year, I got the impression that Hamels understands the importance of proper conditioning and taking care of his body and is committed to it (I think Moyer has had a big impact with him in this area). I mean he made the big stink about not having a chiropractor on the training staff. Well we got one last year and it sure seems to have helped. Let’s hope that he’s on the right track with his body maintainance. I know I’ll be holding my breath all season long.
You hit the nail on the head with Myers. He’s in a contract year, so I expect that to keep him pretty well focused and motivated (even though I still don’t trust him).
Remember, Blanton worked through biceps tendinitis last year which robbed him of some effectiveness just after we got him. I agree that we should expect to see more of what we did down the stretch and in the playoffs from him.
Agree on Moyer. It’s difficult to be entirley comfortable with a guy who is soooo dependent on the home plate umpire and on his defense cleaning up all the balls put in play off him. As a pitcher he has been rock solid and dependable for us. He is consistent in what he brings, but the results he gets seem to be largely beyond his control (if that makes any sense at all).
I’m with you in wanting to see Happ in the 5th spot. Park is ok insurance as a spot starter or a short term injury fill in but I wouldn’t like to see him make 30 starts for us.
As always I will be as nervous as all get out about our pitching. Every year when I look at our pitching I have difficulty stopping myself from seeing how it could all unravel. I’m not negative, it’s just that I’ve seen it happen many times before and I worry. I sure didn’t see last year happening (especially with the way Myers and Eaton were in the beginning of the season). Maybe we can pull another rabbit out of the same hat and just keep sending the same guys out there every 5th day (with the same results).
bski-
Great thoughts on pitching. My biggest concern is Moyers. Often last year it looked like he was done and was being hit hard. I am just not that confident that he will do it again this year. I expect him to be our new Eaton either this year or next, sadly. I really like him and hopefully I am wrong!
last year we got all of our starters to pitch their best down the stretch and in the playoffs, a “career month” from all of them, which is unlikely to happen again. I agree with you that Moyer is likely to pitch worse, Myers will probably continue to be inconsistent and Hamels may get hurt. But I forgot how awful our starters were in the early season until Pete just mentioned it. To start a season this is probably our best group in a long time. Everybody has questions in spring training. Maybe this guy or that guy won’t perform up to his standards but I am confident in this staff. For every Meyers of last season that has to go to the minors there is a guy who comes out of nowhere like Happ. I think we’ll see this is a pretty solid staff and if there is an injury or lack of performance, I believe Amaro will go out and get a starter. This team has done that very well each of the past few years. Moyer, Lidle, Blanton etc. have all come in and pitched very well for us.
Lohse would fall under “etc” there
I knew there was another starter that I was forgetting..
Pete, I agree with you, I am very worried about the health of Hamels.
Bski, I also agree with you that Hamels, more than anyone on our team, understands the importance of year round conditioning. I’ve been reading reports he’s been down in camp for a few weeks already and has been working hard with the trainers. Hopefully this pays off. IT would be amazing to see him follow up last years historic october with a Cy Young….
Thanks Pete. I certainly did not forget how poor our starting pitching was for the first couple months of the season. I’m sure you remember me ranting about it.
I screamed at the TV, ripped my hair out, and ground my teeth down to nubs as we kept sending Eaton and Myers out there every 5th day. I mean we stuck with Eaton until the end of July for crying out loud.
One thing I found out through it all was that I could never handle being a manager. I would not be able to a) keep sending a guy like Eaton out there every 5th day, b) stick with a head case like Myers in order to get the best out of him, or c) deal with upper management telling me I have no choice but to do both A and B.
I hate to sound cliche, but every game really does matter. Every game you win in April and May is one less you need to win in August and September. To that end, it absolutely killed me to see us “waste” all those starts with those two in particular.
I get wanting to stick with Myers, up to a point. I also give the Phils credit for approaching Myers about going to the minors and I give Myers credit for going and straightening himself out. The thing is that it became a necessity for Myers to pitch as well as he did down the stretch specifically because of how poorly he pitched earlier in the season. So it comes out as a wash in my book. My only hope is that he truly has gotten his head on straight, turned himself around, and will give us in 2009 what he did down the stretch in 2008.
Eaton is another case entirely. He was a mistake from day one. It was glaringly apparent in 2007. In light of that, he should have been yanked much, much sooner than he was in 2008, IMO. Eaton puts me in mind of a business term, the name of which eludes me at the moment. Here is the gist:
You buy new software to run your business. It turns out that it was the wrong decision. The software is not getting the job done and is costing you money through delayed or unfilled orders, inventory problems, etc… You can decide to stick with this software, even though you know it is hurting your business, because you just spent so much money on it, or you can purchase new software that does what you need it to do. Sticking with the bad software is the wrong thing to do. Yes, it’s difficult to swallow it and spend more for the right software, but it is the correct business decision. The money you spent on the bad software is gone. You will never get it back. You only hurt your business further by keeping it. Well, in my mind Eaton is the bad software. It’s about time the Phils finally woke up, swallowed hard, ate his contract, and did what was right to help the ballclub.
I really hope we don’t need to deal with anything like that again this year.
sunk cost
Thanks Max.
Nice writeup. Honesty, I’m nervous as hell about the starters, because I see Hamels (injury waiting to happen) and a whole bunch of mediocre. Myers (mind), Moyers (body) and the 5th starter have me concerned