Comments on: What Are The Phillies’ 3B Options?

By: Murphy

Murphy — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:52:33 +0000

Oh definitely if we get Figgins Rollins is in the 7th spot but I Charlie is very stubborn and thats like I said before I would find it interesting him Rollins in the 7th spot. But Utley is not a everyday 2spot hitter and if we got Figgins it would be him 1 Victorino 2. And your lineup has Raul/Beltre 7th that would never work .

By: Adam

Adam — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:06:10 +0000

Jimmy needs to be seventh in the lineup if we get Figgins, no exceptions. Even if we don’t get figgins and we get beltre, I think our lineup should be
Shane
Utley
Werth
Howard
Raul/Beltre
Rollins
Raul/Beltre
Chooch Chooch Train

By: Murphy

Murphy — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:03:39 +0000

Rollins at the 7 spot would be rather interesting, it could be the start of a big inning or keep a big inning going. But the only thing would be Charlie believes in him to much. Maybe if he switches Rollins and Victorino (Victorino 1 and Rollin 2). Victorino hits a lot of doubles and is a great base stealer and Jimmy flys out a lot you could get Victorino at third with one out for Utley and Howard etc… right behind him and it would make for a lot of early leads. And when Jimmy is hot he hits a lot of doubles and steals bases too. It would take the pressure of being a lead off hitter off Jimmy and be a crazy lineup if it works out the way I think it would in my head. Lol

By: schmenkman

schmenkman — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:32:58 +0000

Nice lineups suggestions. One thing I would really like to see is to not have the worst hitter (Rollins) getting the most at bats. Assuming Beltre, how about:
Victorino, Werth, Utley, Howard, Beltre, Ibanez, Rollins, Ruiz

Or with Figgins:
Figgins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, Rollins, Ruiz

By: Phillies Rumors: Phils Serious About Figgins?

Phillies Rumors: Phils Serious About Figgins? — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:23 +0000

[...] I’ve heard 5 years, $50 million (no way) and 4 years, $40 million (still too steep). In my 3rd base post, I said I would offer him a 3 year, $25 million deal with incentives that could bring it to $30 [...]

By: Murphy

Murphy — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:13 +0000

Thanks for clearing up that lineup to lefties situation. I agree with the point about Utley batting 2. The rumor about Halliday for Hamels is bad business for the Phils. Cole had a serious wake up call this season about his works ethic last off season and I think he should return to form next season. I doubt the Phillies let him go without seeing what they get from him next year. They are a team of second chances and its not like his name is Adam Eaton or Freddie Garcia. He is way cheaper than Halliday and you would only have Halliday for a year. With Cole you got at least two. Now I would still love to get Halliday but I don’t want to lose a W.S MVP on 1 bad season. And the money could be spent in a better place like some help for Lidge (just in case well you know……W.S flashback) or more importantly right now whose in the hot corner.

By: Paul ... Phila Bored and Raised

Paul ... Phila Bored and Raised — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:01:00 +0000

If Pudge can be had for cheap then I like it.
I know they used he line-up you described before but with Werth in the 4-hole, you get all the speed to the top of the order (J-Rol, Shane, Chase, Werth).
With any one of those guys on base and a threat to steal, Howard should see more fastballs, since pitchers who bounce-up the sliders and curves on Howard need to give their catcher a shot at throwing someone out, and that generally is not as easy with the off-speed breaking balls that Ryan flails at often.

I don’t like the idea though of hitting Utley second only because having to take pitches to let Rollins steal and/or “moving the runner over” duties would hurt his power numbers.
Hitting third (assuming EITHER Rollins or Victorina gets on) opens a hole for him (first baseman holding the runner on).
Victorin0 has decent pop (10-20 HR guy) but not enough to protect Howard by hitting behind him.
I should point out though that my lime-up idea is only if they land Beltre. DeRosa doesn’t provide the same pop. Figgins would be an altogether different scenario … as a natural lead-off hitter, he would drop Rollins down in the order, where I am afraid he would try (and fail) to hit lots of home runs.
By the way, I think the Phillies have to take a page out of the Johnny Damon playbook and whenever teams overshift for Howard, our base stealers should be thinking about taking second AND third on the same pitch.

Heard a rumor today that Toronto is asking for Cole Hamels for Halliday.

By: ExiledMikeinFla

ExiledMikeinFla — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:34:42 +0000

Here’s another pot on the stove for folks to stir thru:
Pudge Rodriguez in Phils pinstripes.
We could use a good solid defensive-minded veteran catcher to relieve Carlos from time to time. And a genuine threat at the plate PH-ing in late innings. Ruiz could use a mentor to help him the finer points of his position. No longer an everyday player…but still a good right-handed bat.

By: Murphy

Murphy — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:04:40 +0000

Love all the great ideas for additions to the team in 2010. Scutaro and Beltre are my personal favorites. @ Paul I think if they got Beltre that dropping Victorino in the lineup would be more productive than dropping Howard. This would be my line up (only with lefties Though)

1.Jimmy
2.Chase
3.Werth
4.Howard
5.Victorino
6.Ibanez
7.(Beltre)(Tejada)(Derosa)(Feliz)……….Whoever is at third really
8.Chooch
They have done this lineup and it was productive the past couple years in the regular season which is why I wondered why they didn’t pull out that lineup card in the World Series. Any Opinions?

By: Paul ... Phila Bored and Raised

Paul ... Phila Bored and Raised — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:54:06 +0000

I want Beltran. Watch his HR numbers return to the 30+ range at the Bank. And defensively is an UPGRADE which … considering how good Pedro was …
I want some rh pop in the line-up. Take away the strategy of bringing in a lefty to go after Chase & Ryan back to back.
My line up would drop Howard to 5th to get the left-right-left balance …
Rollins (Switch)
Victorino (Switch)
Utley (left)
Werth (right)
Howard (left)
Beltran (right)
Ibanez (left)
Chooch (right)