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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/who-is-your-untouchable-prospect/#comment-18435</link>
		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here goes the next 25 from BA:

The Next 25: Tim Alderson, rhp, Giants; Pedro Alvarez, 3b, Pirates; Lars Anderson, 1b, Red Sox; Jake Arrieta, rhp, Orioles; Jhoulys Chacin, rhp, Rockies; Lonnie Chisenhall, 3b, Indians; Christian Friedrich, lhp, Rockies; Jeremy Hellickson, rhp, Rays; Aaron Hicks, of, Twins; Brad Holt, rhp, Mets; Eric Hosmer, 1b, Royals; Austin Jackson, of, Yankees; Casey Kelly, rhp/ss, Red Sox; &lt;strong&gt;Jason Knapp, rhp, Phillies&lt;/strong&gt;; Mat Latos, rhp, Padres; Jordan Lyles, rhp, Astros; Jennry Mejia, rhp, Mets; Matt Moore, lhp, Rays; Mike Moustakas, 3b, Royals; Derek Norris, c, Nationals; Martin Perez, lhp, Rangers; Ben Revere, of, Twins; Esmil Rogers, rhp, Rockies; Josh Vitters, 3b, Cubs; Nick Weglarz, of, Indians.


I guess Carrasco really has slid down and no Savery either!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here goes the next 25 from BA:</p>
<p>The Next 25: Tim Alderson, rhp, Giants; Pedro Alvarez, 3b, Pirates; Lars Anderson, 1b, Red Sox; Jake Arrieta, rhp, Orioles; Jhoulys Chacin, rhp, Rockies; Lonnie Chisenhall, 3b, Indians; Christian Friedrich, lhp, Rockies; Jeremy Hellickson, rhp, Rays; Aaron Hicks, of, Twins; Brad Holt, rhp, Mets; Eric Hosmer, 1b, Royals; Austin Jackson, of, Yankees; Casey Kelly, rhp/ss, Red Sox; <strong>Jason Knapp, rhp, Phillies</strong>; Mat Latos, rhp, Padres; Jordan Lyles, rhp, Astros; Jennry Mejia, rhp, Mets; Matt Moore, lhp, Rays; Mike Moustakas, 3b, Royals; Derek Norris, c, Nationals; Martin Perez, lhp, Rangers; Ben Revere, of, Twins; Esmil Rogers, rhp, Rockies; Josh Vitters, 3b, Cubs; Nick Weglarz, of, Indians.</p>
<p>I guess Carrasco really has slid down and no Savery either!</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/who-is-your-untouchable-prospect/#comment-18434</link>
		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this take from the Toronto Sun:
The first instalment of the summer book odds on the running of the first Roy Halladay Sweepstakes leading up to the July 31 trade deadline:
LOS ANGELES ANGELS 2-1
Jered Weaver, plus shortstop Brandon Wood, and a pitching prospect such as lefty Trevor Reckling or Jordan Walden. Will Halladay go to the coast? Angels also want either Scott Downs or Brandon League and could expand the deal.
MILWAUKEE BREWERS 5-2
Ex-Jay Dave Bush is injured, lefty Manny Parra took a step back. They added CC Sabathia a year ago and co-GM Ryan Braun would approve. Prospects: Infielders Alcides Escobar and Mat Gamel, catchers Angel Salome and Brett Lawrie.
NEW YORK YANKEES 3-1
Phil Hughes plus prospects, but the Yanks don&#039;t have a shortstop to give. Would Jays deal Halladay within the division? Jesse Barfield and Dale Murray are two Jays sent to N.Y. Not exactly Halladay.
BOSTON RED SOX 4-1
Dream situation for the Jays: A Yanks-Red Sox bidding war ensues and one of them overpays. Most recent Jay dealt to the Sox? Eric Hinske.
LOS ANGELES DODGERS 5-1
With a team payroll of $85 million US, savings on Manny Ramirez&#039;s suspension and the post-season ahead, he is affordable. They have lefty Clayton Kershaw plus minor-league prospects.
&lt;strong&gt;PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 8-1 &lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Defending champs have a need with Brett Myers out, but say they won&#039;t move anyone off the major-league roster or prospects Kyle Drabek or pitcher Jason Knapp. Are outfielders Dominic Brown or Michael Taylor enough? &lt;/strong&gt;
CHICAGO CUBS 10-1
Ryan Dempster, a 17-game winner in 2008, fell climbing the dugout fence and is out for a month.
CHICAGO WHITE SOX 10-1
Kenny Williams is crying poor with attendance woes, but they went after Jake Peavy. Shortstop Gordon Beckham could be the key part of a package.
COLORADO ROCKIES 15-1
Would Halladay want to return to home? He grew up near Denver, but now lives in the Tampa area.
ALSO ELIGIBLES
Detroit Tigers 20-1, Texas Rangers 20-1, San Francisco Giants 25-1, New York Mets 100-1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this take from the Toronto Sun:<br />
The first instalment of the summer book odds on the running of the first Roy Halladay Sweepstakes leading up to the July 31 trade deadline:<br />
LOS ANGELES ANGELS 2-1<br />
Jered Weaver, plus shortstop Brandon Wood, and a pitching prospect such as lefty Trevor Reckling or Jordan Walden. Will Halladay go to the coast? Angels also want either Scott Downs or Brandon League and could expand the deal.<br />
MILWAUKEE BREWERS 5-2<br />
Ex-Jay Dave Bush is injured, lefty Manny Parra took a step back. They added CC Sabathia a year ago and co-GM Ryan Braun would approve. Prospects: Infielders Alcides Escobar and Mat Gamel, catchers Angel Salome and Brett Lawrie.<br />
NEW YORK YANKEES 3-1<br />
Phil Hughes plus prospects, but the Yanks don&#8217;t have a shortstop to give. Would Jays deal Halladay within the division? Jesse Barfield and Dale Murray are two Jays sent to N.Y. Not exactly Halladay.<br />
BOSTON RED SOX 4-1<br />
Dream situation for the Jays: A Yanks-Red Sox bidding war ensues and one of them overpays. Most recent Jay dealt to the Sox? Eric Hinske.<br />
LOS ANGELES DODGERS 5-1<br />
With a team payroll of $85 million US, savings on Manny Ramirez&#8217;s suspension and the post-season ahead, he is affordable. They have lefty Clayton Kershaw plus minor-league prospects.<br />
<strong>PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 8-1 </strong><br />
<strong>Defending champs have a need with Brett Myers out, but say they won&#8217;t move anyone off the major-league roster or prospects Kyle Drabek or pitcher Jason Knapp. Are outfielders Dominic Brown or Michael Taylor enough? </strong><br />
CHICAGO CUBS 10-1<br />
Ryan Dempster, a 17-game winner in 2008, fell climbing the dugout fence and is out for a month.<br />
CHICAGO WHITE SOX 10-1<br />
Kenny Williams is crying poor with attendance woes, but they went after Jake Peavy. Shortstop Gordon Beckham could be the key part of a package.<br />
COLORADO ROCKIES 15-1<br />
Would Halladay want to return to home? He grew up near Denver, but now lives in the Tampa area.<br />
ALSO ELIGIBLES<br />
Detroit Tigers 20-1, Texas Rangers 20-1, San Francisco Giants 25-1, New York Mets 100-1.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/who-is-your-untouchable-prospect/#comment-18433</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baseball America just released it&#039;s midseason Top 25 prospects. &lt;strong&gt;Three&lt;/strong&gt; Phillies made the list...

17. Dominic Brown, OF
23. Michael Taylor, OF
24. Kyle Drabek, SP

In the pre-season, we had &lt;strong&gt;0 &lt;/strong&gt;in the top 25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baseball America just released it&#8217;s midseason Top 25 prospects. <strong>Three</strong> Phillies made the list&#8230;</p>
<p>17. Dominic Brown, OF<br />
23. Michael Taylor, OF<br />
24. Kyle Drabek, SP</p>
<p>In the pre-season, we had <strong>0 </strong>in the top 25.</p>
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		<title>By: First Half in the Books: Where do the Philadelphia Phillies Stand? &#124; Heard in the Cheap Seats</title>
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		<dc:creator>First Half in the Books: Where do the Philadelphia Phillies Stand? &#124; Heard in the Cheap Seats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] development that Roy Halladay is on the market is welcome news for this team.  He is exactly the type of pitcher the Phillies need to land.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] development that Roy Halladay is on the market is welcome news for this team.  He is exactly the type of pitcher the Phillies need to land.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch out for the Cardinals.  MLB Rumors indicates that they&#039;re willing to give up their top five prospects.  Plus Halladay and Chris Carpenter started out together in the Blue Jay organization.  Plus their park if a better pitcher&#039;s park.  A top three of Halladay, Carpenter and Wainwright would make the Cards tough in the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch out for the Cardinals.  MLB Rumors indicates that they&#8217;re willing to give up their top five prospects.  Plus Halladay and Chris Carpenter started out together in the Blue Jay organization.  Plus their park if a better pitcher&#8217;s park.  A top three of Halladay, Carpenter and Wainwright would make the Cards tough in the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Drolz</title>
		<link>http://www.reclinergm.com/who-is-your-untouchable-prospect/#comment-18422</link>
		<dc:creator>Drolz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto is probably going to ask for everything -- Happ, Drabek, Taylor, Brown, Donald, Marson, Carrasco, The Phanatic, McNabb, Jackson, Curtis, Iguodala, Pronger, Carter, Richards, and Gagne. I trust Amaro will use good judgement and try to negotiate it into something more reasonable. 

The more I think about it, the more I&#039;d be willing to deal Drabek for Halladay IF - and only IF - it doesn&#039;t require gutting the rest of the farm system.  

The way I look at it, we&#039;d be trading a potential ace for someone who already is an ace. This isn&#039;t a no-brainer for me - this is the kind of trade where I&#039;d do it, but would be saying &quot;Oh bleep, oh bleep, oh bleep, all right,  it&#039;s a deal.&quot;
By the way, great game tonight. Victorino is sure to pull in a ton of votes after this. In addition to winning the game he also bailed out our bench. Our bench just doesn&#039;t have as much depth as I&#039;d like. It&#039;s nice that Dobbs is getting some at bats so he&#039;ll be sharp as a pinch hitter when Ibanez returns, but... I&#039;m starting to think that if we can&#039;t get Halladay we should really go after a Spilborghs-type player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto is probably going to ask for everything &#8212; Happ, Drabek, Taylor, Brown, Donald, Marson, Carrasco, The Phanatic, McNabb, Jackson, Curtis, Iguodala, Pronger, Carter, Richards, and Gagne. I trust Amaro will use good judgement and try to negotiate it into something more reasonable. </p>
<p>The more I think about it, the more I&#8217;d be willing to deal Drabek for Halladay IF &#8211; and only IF &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t require gutting the rest of the farm system.  </p>
<p>The way I look at it, we&#8217;d be trading a potential ace for someone who already is an ace. This isn&#8217;t a no-brainer for me &#8211; this is the kind of trade where I&#8217;d do it, but would be saying &#8220;Oh bleep, oh bleep, oh bleep, all right,  it&#8217;s a deal.&#8221;<br />
By the way, great game tonight. Victorino is sure to pull in a ton of votes after this. In addition to winning the game he also bailed out our bench. Our bench just doesn&#8217;t have as much depth as I&#8217;d like. It&#8217;s nice that Dobbs is getting some at bats so he&#8217;ll be sharp as a pinch hitter when Ibanez returns, but&#8230; I&#8217;m starting to think that if we can&#8217;t get Halladay we should really go after a Spilborghs-type player.</p>
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		<title>By: deepsixersued</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepsixersued</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stark on E.S.P.N. today said any package starts with Happ,Drabek and Donald plus at least 2 more top prospects and it is likely for 1 year plus because Holliday will want Sabathia money, minimum 20 per for 5 years, and Phils will never do it. He also said Phillies have more than a passing interest in Pedro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stark on E.S.P.N. today said any package starts with Happ,Drabek and Donald plus at least 2 more top prospects and it is likely for 1 year plus because Holliday will want Sabathia money, minimum 20 per for 5 years, and Phils will never do it. He also said Phillies have more than a passing interest in Pedro.</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd Zolecki just posted (4:43pm) a Q &amp; A he had with Amaro this afternoon.  Here it is:

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. spoke with reporters a few minutes ago at Citizens Bank Park. He would not comment specifically about Halladay, who is available via trade. But he talked about trading for the theoretical stud pitcher. He also said little about Pedro Martinez other than &quot;we are trying to do what we can to add to our club, and if we feel at the end of the day Pedro is going to help us than we&#039;ll make a run at him.&quot;
&lt;strong&gt;Question:&lt;/strong&gt; Can you go out and get a stud pitcher?
&lt;strong&gt;Answer:&lt;/strong&gt; We have some flexibility. A lot of it depends on the player that we&#039;re talking about. But we have some flexibility. It&#039;s not unlimited. And as you know, we have the highest payroll we&#039;ve ever had. We&#039;re well over $130 million, and there is a limit to what we can spend.
&lt;strong&gt;Q:&lt;/strong&gt; Are there untouchable players in your farm system?
&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; There are some untouchables in our system. We feel that we&#039;re building a pretty strong farm system. ... We have to be prudent about what our future is about. It is important to win now, and we understand the importance of that. But that said, there are players we would like to keep for our future. And I would say they&#039;re not as touchable as others.
&lt;strong&gt;Q:&lt;/strong&gt; But it is a situation where you absolutely would not trade somebody? If the best player in the Major Leagues is available, are there still players you would not consider trading?
&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; There are.
(Those players are right-handers &lt;strong&gt;Kyle Drabek&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Jason Knapp&lt;/strong&gt; and outfielder &lt;strong&gt;Dominic Brown&lt;/strong&gt;.)
&lt;strong&gt;Q:&lt;/strong&gt; Last year you reportedly finished second in the CC Sabathia sweepstakes ...
&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; Really? If you&#039;re second, you&#039;re last, I guess.
&lt;strong&gt;Q:&lt;/strong&gt; Are you in better position to make a trade for somebody like a Halladay this year?
&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; I think we&#039;re in good position to do some things overall. Like I said, I think our farm system has improved. Again, when you&#039;re talking about doing trades of any type, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We may think our guys are much better than they think our guys are.  We&#039;ll try to be aggressive with the right deal. At the same time, we have to be prudent about what some of these moves might impact our future, too.
&lt;strong&gt;Q:&lt;/strong&gt; You understand fans and the manager don&#039;t like to hear that?
&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; Oh, yeah, I understand that. The goal is to win this year. There&#039;s no question about that. That doesn&#039;t change. But we didn&#039;t get CC last year and we didn&#039;t get Manny (Ramirez) last year and most of these guys on the field right now are toting rings around.
&lt;strong&gt;Q: Would you substract from the Major-League roster to make a trade?
A: The goal is to add, not to subtract. That&#039;s really the goal, so subtracting doesn&#039;t necessarily help us.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Q:&lt;/strong&gt; If there is a guy you&#039;re pretty sure can help you win a World Series this year, but you&#039;d have to give up a guy you think might be a superstar ... is that a tough call to make? Kind of like Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz. Is it worth giving up a guy like Smoltz for a World Series?
&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; Well, if you can guarantee me that it&#039;s going to win a World Series then probably, yeah. You don&#039;t get a chance to win too many World Series. But that&#039;s the thing. When teams put a really huge investment in a move they expect to win. Some pretty big names got moved last year and while those teams made the playoffs, they didn&#039;t necessarily make for a championship club.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd Zolecki just posted (4:43pm) a Q &amp; A he had with Amaro this afternoon.  Here it is:</p>
<p>Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. spoke with reporters a few minutes ago at Citizens Bank Park. He would not comment specifically about Halladay, who is available via trade. But he talked about trading for the theoretical stud pitcher. He also said little about Pedro Martinez other than &#8220;we are trying to do what we can to add to our club, and if we feel at the end of the day Pedro is going to help us than we&#8217;ll make a run at him.&#8221;<br />
<strong>Question:</strong> Can you go out and get a stud pitcher?<br />
<strong>Answer:</strong> We have some flexibility. A lot of it depends on the player that we&#8217;re talking about. But we have some flexibility. It&#8217;s not unlimited. And as you know, we have the highest payroll we&#8217;ve ever had. We&#8217;re well over $130 million, and there is a limit to what we can spend.<br />
<strong>Q:</strong> Are there untouchable players in your farm system?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> There are some untouchables in our system. We feel that we&#8217;re building a pretty strong farm system. &#8230; We have to be prudent about what our future is about. It is important to win now, and we understand the importance of that. But that said, there are players we would like to keep for our future. And I would say they&#8217;re not as touchable as others.<br />
<strong>Q:</strong> But it is a situation where you absolutely would not trade somebody? If the best player in the Major Leagues is available, are there still players you would not consider trading?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> There are.<br />
(Those players are right-handers <strong>Kyle Drabek</strong> and <strong>Jason Knapp</strong> and outfielder <strong>Dominic Brown</strong>.)<br />
<strong>Q:</strong> Last year you reportedly finished second in the CC Sabathia sweepstakes &#8230;<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Really? If you&#8217;re second, you&#8217;re last, I guess.<br />
<strong>Q:</strong> Are you in better position to make a trade for somebody like a Halladay this year?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> I think we&#8217;re in good position to do some things overall. Like I said, I think our farm system has improved. Again, when you&#8217;re talking about doing trades of any type, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We may think our guys are much better than they think our guys are.  We&#8217;ll try to be aggressive with the right deal. At the same time, we have to be prudent about what some of these moves might impact our future, too.<br />
<strong>Q:</strong> You understand fans and the manager don&#8217;t like to hear that?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Oh, yeah, I understand that. The goal is to win this year. There&#8217;s no question about that. That doesn&#8217;t change. But we didn&#8217;t get CC last year and we didn&#8217;t get Manny (Ramirez) last year and most of these guys on the field right now are toting rings around.<br />
<strong>Q: Would you substract from the Major-League roster to make a trade?<br />
A: The goal is to add, not to subtract. That&#8217;s really the goal, so subtracting doesn&#8217;t necessarily help us.</strong><br />
<strong>Q:</strong> If there is a guy you&#8217;re pretty sure can help you win a World Series this year, but you&#8217;d have to give up a guy you think might be a superstar &#8230; is that a tough call to make? Kind of like Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz. Is it worth giving up a guy like Smoltz for a World Series?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Well, if you can guarantee me that it&#8217;s going to win a World Series then probably, yeah. You don&#8217;t get a chance to win too many World Series. But that&#8217;s the thing. When teams put a really huge investment in a move they expect to win. Some pretty big names got moved last year and while those teams made the playoffs, they didn&#8217;t necessarily make for a championship club.</p>
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		<title>By: bski</title>
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		<dc:creator>bski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete......Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/06/farewell-and-thank-you/&quot; title=&quot;Tim Malcolm&#039;s farewell&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim Malcolm&#039;s farewell&lt;/a&gt; post from a couple weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete&#8230;&#8230;Here is <a href="http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/06/farewell-and-thank-you/" title="Tim Malcolm's farewell" rel="nofollow">Tim Malcolm&#8217;s farewell</a> post from a couple weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah Phuture is pretty plain, but good content nonetheless. Tim left last week, he said he is done blogging, but he was always on top of all things Phillies. Glad to be here more often though. I will recommend your site to those over at &quot;the Nation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah Phuture is pretty plain, but good content nonetheless. Tim left last week, he said he is done blogging, but he was always on top of all things Phillies. Glad to be here more often though. I will recommend your site to those over at &#8220;the Nation.&#8221;</p>
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