Comments on: You are the Sixers’ GM: Who Do You Take? http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:41:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: jrIII http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1828 jrIII Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:11:12 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1828 Dave T: First of all, I was probably the biggest EG fan this year in college basketball and followed Indiana closely. I understand Gordon's injury and the turmoil at IU very well, but my concerns with him go beyond that: He is an undersized 2 in the league and doesn't have the requisite ball handling skills that the NBA game is going to require. As an off-guard at Indiana (because Indiana tried him at the point and it didn't work out), in those first 3 months of the season, Gordon averaged close to 3.5 turnovers/per game. And again, this is as an off-guard, not on the point. I am concerned at how that translates to the NBA game. And what he lacks in handle, he also lacks in court vision--further exacerbating the concerns I have about Gordon due to the fact that he is understand. You are right about Gordon's unlimited, deep range and there is no question he has a decent first step, but I think that will continue to get neutralize against larger 6'4-6'6 defenders in the NBA. These are the concerns that scouts have. In the end, why are Bayless and Mayo rated higher (among other reasons) because they have a proven ability to handle the ball, regardless of being undersized. Again, I loved Gordon in college just concerned at how his game translated to the next level. But, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Dave T: First of all, I was probably the biggest EG fan this year in college basketball and followed Indiana closely. I understand Gordon’s injury and the turmoil at IU very well, but my concerns with him go beyond that:
He is an undersized 2 in the league and doesn’t have the requisite ball handling skills that the NBA game is going to require. As an off-guard at Indiana (because Indiana tried him at the point and it didn’t work out), in those first 3 months of the season, Gordon averaged close to 3.5 turnovers/per game. And again, this is as an off-guard, not on the point. I am concerned at how that translates to the NBA game. And what he lacks in handle, he also lacks in court vision–further exacerbating the concerns I have about Gordon due to the fact that he is understand. You are right about
Gordon’s unlimited, deep range and there is no question he has a decent first step, but I think that will continue to get neutralize against larger 6’4-6’6 defenders in the NBA. These are the concerns that scouts have. In the end, why are Bayless and Mayo rated higher (among other reasons) because they have a proven ability to handle the ball, regardless of being undersized. Again, I loved Gordon in college just concerned at how his game translated to the next level. But, I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

]]> By: Dave T http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1817 Dave T Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:56:45 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1817 JTIII, Couldn't disagree more about Eric Gordon. My thoughts on him: -What separates him from more of a Ray Allen/Michael Redd type IS that first step. It's extremely rare to find a guy who is that good of a shooter and just as explosive in getting to the rim when he wants. -He's not just a college 3 point shooter...this guy can step back and hit the NBA three any time he wants. I watched a lot of Indiana games last year...my jaw dropped quite a few times at just how lights out he can be from anywhere on the court. -Most underrated thing about Gordon: he's an incredible finisher. He's obviously a guy that had the Mikan drill, or other similar type "3-5 feet layup drills near the basket" hammered into him at a young age. If there is any kind of opening or seem when he slices to the rim, he can find it, and will finish. And if he gets hacked, he's a great FT shooter. -I think all the knocks on him are coming from his play in February - March...and this is one of the few times I'm willing to let a guy off the hook because of the insanity of that organization. Kelvin Sampson, by all accounts, was incredibly close and a father figure to him...to have that yanked away mid season, and an assistant with not a lot of experience at the helm step in? That's an enormous change for a team to take. His wrist was injured for the last 6-8 weeks of play, which will make a huge impact for someone that has a shooter's game like Gordon's, and a guy that needs to rely on full motion of the hand to finish around the rim. Several of Indy's quality rotation players were kicked off the team or benched...that whole team was just spiraling downward, and I can't blame Gordon for any of that. How people finish really affect their draft stock, and unfortunately the Indy program was just a mess the last two months. If the NBA draft happened in early February, after a good 17-20 games of the season and halfway through Big 10 play, Eric Gordon would be a lock for the #3 or #4 pick...he was an absolute monster the first three months of the season. I'm relying on that, and not the quasi-healthy Gordon surrounded by a new coach and turmoil. JTIII,

Couldn’t disagree more about Eric Gordon. My thoughts on him:

-What separates him from more of a Ray Allen/Michael Redd type IS that first step. It’s extremely rare to find a guy who is that good of a shooter and just as explosive in getting to the rim when he wants.

-He’s not just a college 3 point shooter…this guy can step back and hit the NBA three any time he wants. I watched a lot of Indiana games last year…my jaw dropped quite a few times at just how lights out he can be from anywhere on the court.

-Most underrated thing about Gordon: he’s an incredible finisher. He’s obviously a guy that had the Mikan drill, or other similar type “3-5 feet layup drills near the basket” hammered into him at a young age. If there is any kind of opening or seem when he slices to the rim, he can find it, and will finish. And if he gets hacked, he’s a great FT shooter.

-I think all the knocks on him are coming from his play in February – March…and this is one of the few times I’m willing to let a guy off the hook because of the insanity of that organization. Kelvin Sampson, by all accounts, was incredibly close and a father figure to him…to have that yanked away mid season, and an assistant with not a lot of experience at the helm step in? That’s an enormous change for a team to take.

His wrist was injured for the last 6-8 weeks of play, which will make a huge impact for someone that has a shooter’s game like Gordon’s, and a guy that needs to rely on full motion of the hand to finish around the rim.

Several of Indy’s quality rotation players were kicked off the team or benched…that whole team was just spiraling downward, and I can’t blame Gordon for any of that. How people finish really affect their draft stock, and unfortunately the Indy program was just a mess the last two months. If the NBA draft happened in early February, after a good 17-20 games of the season and halfway through Big 10 play, Eric Gordon would be a lock for the #3 or #4 pick…he was an absolute monster the first three months of the season. I’m relying on that, and not the quasi-healthy Gordon surrounded by a new coach and turmoil.

]]> By: jrIII http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1815 jrIII Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:19:21 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1815 Agreed- Mayo- the polish, and overall versatility with Mayo at this stage is attractive. I think he is the most-NBA ready. Beasley, the Coleman comparison is funny and justifiably scares me a bit, but again, Charles Barkley had that same rap. At the end of the day, however, how can you pass up 26/12 out of the Big 12. Now, that brings to something I heard with regards to Beasley being shopped to Memphis for Conley and the No. 5 pick with the Miami Heat sending the No. 2 pick and Daequan Cook. It appears that Memphis would grab Beasley and the Heat would grab Kevin Love or Brook Lopez. WOW...are they DC comparisons really getting to NBA teams? Rose- Athletic and plays fast, but lacks offensive and an ability to knock down shots and especially lacks the requisite court vision that is needed to play "point guard" in the NBA. I'd like to make a bold NBA draft prediction: Eric Gordan concerns me and I would label him as potentially the disappointment of the Draft, retrospectively speaking. He was the game at one gear--almost too fast and is turnover prone. Can shot it from anywhere and has a quick first step, but in watching this year, he seemed to lack a sustained ability to get to the hole. Now, what are your thoughts on my boy Joe Alexander??? Agreed-

Mayo- the polish, and overall versatility with Mayo at this stage is attractive. I think he is the most-NBA ready.

Beasley, the Coleman comparison is funny and justifiably scares me a bit, but again, Charles Barkley had that same rap. At the end of the day, however, how can you pass up 26/12 out of the Big 12.

Now, that brings to something I heard with regards to Beasley being shopped to Memphis for Conley and the No. 5 pick with the Miami Heat sending the No. 2 pick and Daequan Cook. It appears that Memphis would grab Beasley and the Heat would grab Kevin Love or Brook Lopez. WOW…are they DC comparisons really getting to NBA teams?

Rose- Athletic and plays fast, but lacks offensive and an ability to knock down shots and especially lacks the requisite court vision that is needed to play “point guard” in the NBA.

I’d like to make a bold NBA draft prediction: Eric Gordan concerns me and I would label him as potentially the disappointment of the Draft, retrospectively speaking. He was the game at one gear–almost too fast and is turnover prone. Can shot it from anywhere and has a quick first step, but in watching this year, he seemed to lack a sustained ability to get to the hole.

Now, what are your thoughts on my boy Joe Alexander???

]]> By: Dannie http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1814 Dannie Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:04:39 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1814 Rosko - I think O.J. Mayo is the best prospect in the draft and I think he is easily the best guard in the draft <b>right now</b>. I have Beasley as a tie or a hair behind because of the potential Derrick Coleman possibility. Everyone is in love with Rose and that's fine but I think he is still a bit of a project in terms of his shooting, decision-making and court vision as a pure point guard. Rosko – I think O.J. Mayo is the best prospect in the draft and I think he is easily the best guard in the draft right now. I have Beasley as a tie or a hair behind because of the potential Derrick Coleman possibility. Everyone is in love with Rose and that’s fine but I think he is still a bit of a project in terms of his shooting, decision-making and court vision as a pure point guard.

]]> By: Dannie http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1813 Dannie Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:01:44 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1813 B Frank - When I hear and see Robin Lopez I immediately think Anderson Varejao. Good role player, is a defensive player and offensive rebounder. But doesn't address the need for inside scoring. Cosmic - If you are new the blog you will quickly find out Pete and I aren't big Roy Hibbert fans. I personally think he is just ok and soft. I think he would be a decent back-up center in the NBA at best. B Frank – When I hear and see Robin Lopez I immediately think Anderson Varejao. Good role player, is a defensive player and offensive rebounder. But doesn’t address the need for inside scoring.

Cosmic – If you are new the blog you will quickly find out Pete and I aren’t big Roy Hibbert fans. I personally think he is just ok and soft. I think he would be a decent back-up center in the NBA at best.

]]> By: jrIII http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1811 jrIII Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:21:20 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1811 Outside of the context of the Sixers pick, what are people's top 3 best prospects outside of rose and beasley. Also what are ppl's opinions of joe alexander? Outside of the context of the Sixers pick, what are people’s top 3 best prospects outside of rose and beasley. Also what are ppl’s opinions of joe alexander?

]]> By: cosmic http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1804 cosmic Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:00:38 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1804 It is obvious that the sixers is talking project so that mean the sixer will pick Deandre Jordan. It is obvious that the sixers is talking project so that mean the sixer will pick Deandre Jordan.

]]> By: cosmic http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1803 cosmic Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:58:17 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1803 Were is hibbert? Were is hibbert?

]]> By: B Frank http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1802 B Frank Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:54:59 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1802 How about Robin Lopez? All of these guys have questions, that's why they would still be available at 16... but to be honest, I'd still be happy if the Sixers took any of these guys (except Ajinca) and I trust Ed to make a more informed pick than I could. I think it's that kind of draft. We could trade up or trade down and still get the same type of guy. How about Robin Lopez?
All of these guys have questions, that’s why they would still be available at 16… but to be honest, I’d still be happy if the Sixers took any of these guys (except Ajinca) and I trust Ed to make a more informed pick than I could. I think it’s that kind of draft. We could trade up or trade down and still get the same type of guy.

]]> By: Morty http://www.reclinergm.com/you-are-the-sixers-gm-who-do-you-take/#comment-1800 Morty Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:38:49 +0000 http://www.reclinergm.com/?p=287#comment-1800 Zack: Well, I would be quote happy with Arthur. I listed him 2nd in my preference of Pete's list and it's really only the size that tipped my decision between the 2. The mentor comment indicates the whoever the Sixers pick, they understand that they need to be very active in his development, in both basketball, and life issues. Zack: Well, I would be quote happy with Arthur. I listed him 2nd in my preference of Pete’s list and it’s really only the size that tipped my decision between the 2.

The mentor comment indicates the whoever the Sixers pick, they understand that they need to be very active in his development, in both basketball, and life issues.

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